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China: We invented golf
News.com.au ^ | February 14, 2006 | correspondents in Hong Kong

Posted on 02/14/2006 2:47:47 PM PST by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

ANCIENT paintings allegedly proving the Chinese invented the game of golf 1000 years ago are to go on display in Hong Kong.

The pictures from the 13th and 14th centuries show Chinese noblemen hitting balls into holes with clubs that look remarkably similar to modern golf clubs.

The paintings will go on display in an exhibition titled Ancient Chinese Pastimes in Hong Kong's Heritage Museum from March to June, the South China Morning Post reported.

Golf is widely believed to have been invented by the Scots in the 15th century but some Chinese historians argue that the game was being played in China by the year 945.

They point to evidence of a game called "chuiwan" - "chui" meaning to hit and "wan" meaning ball - and say the game was taken to Europe by Mongolian travellers.

Chief curator of the Hong Kong museum Tom Ming said: "The game shown in these drawings is very similar to modern day golf. (This is) very strong evidence that we invented the game."


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KEYWORDS: china; golf
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To: Salamander

Sorry, didn't know you were joking -- you can see from the responses on here it's hard to tell if someone is joking or if they're being serious.


101 posted on 02/15/2006 6:00:35 AM PST by pganini
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To: pganini

My "theory" was so ridiculous that it was either obviously a joke or proof that I am indeed quite mad.....:D


102 posted on 02/15/2006 6:34:40 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: md2576

Sounds like you have bought into the liberal agenda that teaches everyone to take offense at everything.

I am a Mick and a Limey. To suggest that these labels hurt me as much as the "N" word hurts blacks is utter foolishness.


103 posted on 02/15/2006 6:53:50 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

I was actually going to say in my post that those words are not as hurtful as the N word or calling Chinese the C word but I felt I may be leaving others out since I have never been told whether or not those words hurt so I changed it. I do know that Ch!nk is a word just about every Asian hates. Chinese or not.
Thank you for your input but I doubt any Asian will come on here and say that Ch!nk does not hurt or bother them.


104 posted on 02/15/2006 7:55:38 AM PST by md2576 (If we are at war then can you tell me WHEN can I can start asking questions?)
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To: md2576

I do not accept the premise, which is that the propriety of using labels is based upon how much the person labeled claims to be hurt. I acknowledge that I referred to not being "hurt" by "Limey" and "Mick", but that really hasn't been my point. Rather, my point is that the "N" word has a certain status as tabboo because of the fact that the word was intimately tied in with the dreadful institution of American chattel slavery. The other words do not fall into this category. This is a fact. The "take offense" industry, however, has taught us all to offended by everything, so if we judge labels by how "hurt" people claim to be, then we would be walking on eggshells.


105 posted on 02/15/2006 8:16:56 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Willie Green

Food for thought.

http://www.asianweek.com/2002_06_21/news_washj.html

Addressing Hate Violence

Unfortunately, hate and violence, were in the news here in Washington several times last week. On Tuesday, the Chinese Americans (OCA), National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium (NAPALC) and other organizations commemorated the 20th anniversary of the death of Vincent Chin, a 27-year-old Chinese American from Michigan. Representative David Wu (D-OR), Chair of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus, Delegate Robert Underwood (D-GU), Wade Henderson, Executive of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights and Deepa Iyer, board member for the South Asian American Leaders of Tomorrow, participated in a community press conference commemorating a tragic event that galvanized the nationwide movement to combat anti-Asian Pacific American violence.

On June 19, 1982, Vincent Chin was brutally beaten with a baseball bat by two white autoworkers outside of a restaurant in Detroit. The two men reportedly called him a “Jap” and blamed him for the decline in the American automobile industry, which was facing tough competition from Japan at that time. Chin died four days later from severe head injuries, but his two killers were sentenced to just three years probation and fined $3,780. This outrageously low penalty, “awakened the APA community to the realization that discrimination was as strong as ever, regardless of the strides we had made,” stated Christine Chen, OCA Executive Director. “It also alerted APAs to the failure of the American judicial system to punish hate-motivated violence. This tragedy forced Asian Pacific Americans to realize that in order to protect themselves from such attacks, many steps needed to be taken, including the passage of strong hate crimes legislation.”

Unfortunately, the same day that this tragedy was being commemorated, the United States Senate voted to not vote on the merits of the so-called Hate Crimes Bill. In a vote taken mostly along party lines, Republicans prevented the Local Law Enforcement ünhancement Act, S. 625 (LLEEA) from getting the substantive attention it deserved on the Senate floor. The Act would have expanded the list of hate crimes to include attacks based on a victim’s sexual orientation, gender or disability. In addition to strengthening federal hate crime law, the new measure would enable federal prosecutors to provide more assistance to state and local authorities investigating and prosecuting hate crimes, whether or not the victim of the hate crime was participating in an activity protected under federal laws.

“Hate crimes send a direct and intolerant message to not only the victim but, more importantly, to the victim’s community,” said Jin Sook Lee, Asian Pacific Labor Alliance Executive Director. “If hate crimes are not recognized as distinct crimes, then by implication the criminal justice system is turning a blind eye to the harm inflicted on the victim and the victim’s community. It is because of this we urgently need tougher hate crimes legislation.”

Meanwhile, the Washington Post featured a story last Saturday about Canadian Army Gen. Romeo Dallaire, the commander of the United Nations peacekeeping force dispatched to oversee a previously negotiated end to the civil war in Rwanda in 1994.

According to Gen. Dallaire, he and his peacekeeping force were grossly understaffed and under-equipped, so that they were unable to stop the majority Hutus from slaughtering the minority Tutsis.

According to the article, “On April 6, 1994, an airplane carrying Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana and Burundian President Cyprien Ntaryamira, both Hutus, was shot down as it prepared to land at Kigali, killing both leaders. No one has ever determined who fired the missiles that downed the plane. As though the shoot-down was a signal, military and militia groups began rounding up and killing all Tutsis and political moderates, regardless of their ethnic background.”

According to Dallaire and others, in 100 days, 800,000 people were killed, 300,000 of them children. Some 500,000 more were injured. There were more people killed, wounded, displaced or refugeed in 100 days in Rwanda than there were in the whole eight or nine years of the Yugoslav campaign. Various countries sent over 60,000 troops into the Balkans to stop the “ethnic cleansing” there, but did not do the same in Rwanda. Gen. Dallaire can only guess at the reason why. Did the people of the developed world see that “the people of Rwanda [were] less human?”

Three years ago, an independent inquiry into the genocide found that a lack of commitment and resources had caused the United Nations to fail in meeting the primary obligation for which it was founded (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54193-2002Jun14.html).

Asian Pacific Americans have been on the receiving end of hate violence almost from the day we arrived here, with the violence escalating at times when the economy was depressed. For example, Chinese Americans were lynched in Los Angeles in 1871, and anti-Chinese riots took place in Denver (1880), Rock Springs (Wyoming, 1885) and Seattle (1886). While we are nowhere near the danger that befell the Tutsis in 1994, it is our obligation to take the lessons of our past and put them to use in enacting legislation that will protect all people from hate violence — including gays, women and disabled people who would be covered by a strengthened Hate Crimes Act.


106 posted on 02/15/2006 8:25:19 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: Willie Green

http://immigrants.harpweek.com/ChineseAmericans/2KeyIssues/TheAntiChineseHysteria.htm

The Anti-Chinese Hysteria of 1885-1886

Ever since the Chinese came to the United States, the prejudice against them sometimes culminated in violence. The physical hostility became particularly virulent in the 1880s. During this period, Chinese communities were harassed, attacked, or expelled in 34 towns in California, three in Oregon, and four in Nevada. Property of the Chinese in America, worth millions of dollars, was damaged or destroyed in mining regions in Alaska, Colorado, South Dakota, and other states or territories. The worst occurrences of violence were in Denver, Los Angeles, Rock Springs (Wyoming), and Tacoma and Seattle (Washington).

Labor disputes were often the spark for anti-Chinese riots. In 1875, the Union Pacific Railroad Company first hired Chinese as strikebreakers in its Rock Springs mines in the Wyoming Territory. The bitterness this caused between the (largely immigrant) white miners and the Chinese festered for a decade before exploding in the fall of 1885. The attack on September 2 by 150 armed white men against the Chinese miners had calamitous results for the Chinese community: 28 deaths, 15 wounded, the expulsion of several hundred, and property damage of nearly $150,000.

After the Rock Springs riot, anti-Chinese violence quickly spread to other areas in the West. On September 11, Chinese were attacked in Coal Creek; on October 24, Seattle’s Chinatown was burned; on November 3, a mob of 300 expelled the Chinese in Tacoma before moving on to force similar expulsions in smaller towns. The Washington governor requested federal assistance to restore law and order and on November 7 President Grover Cleveland sent the U.S. military to Seattle and Tacoma to suppress the riots.

The Wyoming Territorial government established an investigating committee, but it was controlled by the anti-Chinese labor union, the Knights of Labor. The Chinese government sent their own officials on a fact-finding mission, guarded by federal troops, and demanded reparations from the U.S. government. President Cleveland believed that the federal government was not responsible, but agreed to the compensation as a gesture of good will. In 1887, Congress approved the indemnity legislation. Cleveland was appalled by the violence, but he had reached the conclusion that the anti-Chinese prejudice was so deeply entrenched in the West, and the Chinese and American cultures were so different, that the Chinese would never be assimilated. It was the government’s duty, therefore, to protect the Chinese resident in the U.S. and to prevent the immigration of more Chinese through a new treaty to be negotiated between the American and Chinese governments.


107 posted on 02/15/2006 8:26:32 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: Willie Green

California Anti-Chinese Legislation, 1852-1878

1852: Foreign Miners’ License Tax required a $3 monthly license fee on miners ineligible for citizenship (i.e., Chinese).

1852: Commutation Tax required shipmasters to prepare a list of foreign passengers, and ship owners to post a $500 bond for each, which could be commuted by paying a tax of $5 to $50 per passenger. The law was an attempt to dissuade Chinese immigration.

1855: Tax of $50 imposed on shipmasters or ship owners for each foreign passenger ineligible for citizenship (i.e., Chinese). The California Supreme Court declared the law unconstitutional in 1857.

1855: Foreign Miners’ License Tax increased to $6 per month, and set to increase $2 higher each subsequent year. Repealed by the state legislature in 1856, establishing the tax at $4 per month.

1858: Chinese individuals were forbidden from landing in California except during weather-related emergencies. The California Supreme Court declared the law unconstitutional in 1862.

1862: Chinese Police Tax levied a $2.50 fee on all Chinese living in the state, with a few exceptions. (The term "police" referred to the legislative authority to regulate for the health, safety, welfare, and morals of the state.) The California Supreme Court declared the law unconstitutional later in 1862.

1863: Chinese individuals were disallowed from testifying in criminal or civil cases.

1863: Chinese children were excluded from public schools.

1867: Living areas were required to have at least 500 cubic feet of air for each resident. (Chinese housing was the primary target of the law.)

1870: Steep fines up to $5000 were imposed on individuals who imported Chinese into the state without a "certificate of good character." The California Supreme Court declared the law unconstitutional.

1876: Chinese laborers were barred from working on county irrigation projects.

1878: Chinese individuals were barred from owning real estate.


108 posted on 02/15/2006 8:28:07 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: dinoparty
So calling someone a Ch!nk is O.K. in your book?
Sorry, my best friend is Korean and has heard this his whole life. He doesn't hate it because Liberals have said it's hurtful you know. It is just as hateful as the N word and if you can explain how it's not then please do. Like I said, I changed my post because of ignorance of how the other side feels. This does not make me a liberal puppet in any sense.
109 posted on 02/15/2006 8:33:37 AM PST by md2576 (If we are at war then can you tell me WHEN can I can start asking questions?)
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To: Willie Green

I'm posting these articles not to elicit some kind of apology or nor am I wanting some of you to feel guilty. I post these so that you may be sensitive that some words hurt. You absolutely have the freedom to speak (and I will defend your right to say it), but what good is it to hold onto words and ideas that so many of your forefathers fought against.

8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.

James 3:8-10


110 posted on 02/15/2006 8:39:07 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: Jeremiah2911
I post these so that you may be sensitive that some words hurt.

In our culture, rather than insisting that our children subordinate their individual interests to somebody else's sensitivities, we teach them to not overreact when somebody else offends them.

"Sticks and stones will break my bones,
but names will never hurt me."

~ English Proverb


111 posted on 02/15/2006 9:02:50 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Are you saying that my reaction is an overreaction then? If it is, then have I called on the government to go after some of the above posters? Have I asked for a boycott? Have I advocated violence/murder?

Some of you who are Christian may remember the "art", Piss Christ or the movie "Last Temptation of Christ". I would support these "artists" right to free speech/offend, but I would also take them to task for making such "tripe".

Healthy offense has been mislabeled as "overreaction" by too many people over time especially when they were not the ones offended/ridiculed.


112 posted on 02/15/2006 9:20:56 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: dead

LOL


113 posted on 02/15/2006 9:25:09 AM PST by Centurion2000 ("If you're going to shoot somebody, Shoot! Don't talk!")
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To: Jeremiah2911
Are you saying that my reaction is an overreaction then?

No, I simply posted a contrasting adage for comparison purposes.

I would support these "artists" right to free speech/offend, but I would also take them to task for making such "tripe".

I agree, but with slightly different priority.
I'd verbally condemn them somewhat more harshly than that.
While it's true that they have the right to free speech, they're not entitled to public funding for their trash.

114 posted on 02/15/2006 9:42:52 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
I agree, but with slightly different priority. I'd verbally condemn them somewhat more harshly than that. While it's true that they have the right to free speech, they're not entitled to public funding for their trash.

We have a consensus on this. The NEA gave money to fund "Piss Christ" but I'm not sure about "Last Temptation".
115 posted on 02/15/2006 9:46:41 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: Jeremiah2911

By the way, just to avoid the possibility of being accused of just posting how "bad the US" has treated the Chinese, here's a link to a "VOLUNTEER" group of American's who fought against the Japanese in China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers


116 posted on 02/15/2006 10:14:54 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: ansel12
Tiger Woods is the world's best golfer and he is Asian

Actually, he speaks English, went to Stanford, and is an American.

117 posted on 02/15/2006 12:10:58 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

We all know his nationality, but most people don't know his race.


118 posted on 02/15/2006 2:08:21 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

He has a black father and a Thai mother. I believe he considers himself just an American.


119 posted on 02/15/2006 2:17:00 PM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: Jeremiah2911

Newsweek and Time gave his portion of black as one eigth, and one quarter don't know which is correct , but he is definitly one half Asian, the rest is white and I believe American Indian. His father is only part black and his mother is only part Thai, but all Asian.


120 posted on 02/15/2006 3:09:08 PM PST by ansel12
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