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To: Snowbelt Man

> I just totally disagree with your conclusion regarding who is in cahoots with the political left.

That's why I said "knowingly or unknowingly." Lenin, I believe, coined the term "useful idiots" to describe those who aided his cause without necessarily knowing it or wanting to do so. We're seeign the result of this in Europe with respect to the Islamofascists... and we're seeing it in the US with respect to the anti-science types. By casting Republicans as the party that refuses to leave the Dark Ages, they aid the cause of the Left.

Evolution happens. The Earth is round. The sun will come up tomorrow. Denial of these basic facts, IMO, marks one as ignorant or a Leftist operative.


110 posted on 02/10/2006 12:05:59 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: orionblamblam

You may be a scientist but your conclusions show that you are ignorant when it comes to history, which happens to be a specialty of mine. Beleive me, Lenin was not using Christians as "useful idiots." In fact, all of the murderous regimes of the 20th century and now the 21st century strictly prohibit the God of the Bible, and especially Jesus, from being preached. Why could that possibly be? What motive would some tyrant have which would cause him to prohibit people from becoming the "useful idiots" that you seem to think Christianity produces? Because history shows that the exact opposite is true.

In most of these nations, you can lose your life if you talk about Jesus and there are literally hundreds of thousands in prison as a result of just sharing a very simple message: Man is sinful by nature. God provided His own sacrifice for that sin in the form of His only son, Jesus. You can know God and escape the consequences of sin by repenting and believing that message. For this, they go to prison.

When Europe became a post Christian society, it's downfall was only a matter of time. As America embraces the religion of secular humanism, the philosophical beliefs that have made us the most politically and economically free nation in the history of the human race are being lost(that is - the past 6,000 years - since those who lived prior to that time didn't see fit to leave us much of a record).

Anyone who embraces the concept that man is a random creation resulting from a series of coincidental events as opposed to a God created individual with value and accountability to his Creator always ends up where Lenin took Russia, where Europe is headed and where America seems to be pointed (trailing Europe by about 50 years.)

My friend, the exact opposite of your postulate is true. Just look who votes for whom in this nation. Who's for abortion? Who's for higher taxes and bigger government? Who's for supporting public education with more and more tax dollars? Who's for appeasing the Islamofascists? I guarantee you that it's not Bible believing Christians.

Why are the Democrats and the European left so afraid of Bible believing Christians? Why are pastors in the European socialist countries tried and sent to jail for suggesting that homosexuality is sin? Why is trying to convert someone to Christianity on its way to becoming hate speech in Europe and America? Because we're anti-science? No, because we're anti-tyrant!

Without the evangelical Christian base, the Republican party would be in deep doo doo and America would be even farther along the road to European style socialism. You may call it refusing to leave the Dark Ages, but history has proven over and over again that those who reject the God of the Bible usually end up committing acts of darkness beyond what most of us can imagine.

By the way, I've been to Kolyma, one of Stalin's most infamous labor camps located in northeast Siberia. I was one of the first westerners to visit formerly closed cities in northeast Siberia. Many were in these camps because they believed the simple message about Jesus stated above. If you want to talk about real darkness, I've seen it and I know people who've experienced it. Let me just tell you one thing. It wasn't the Bible believing Christians producing it. It was people who believed that human being have no inherent value because they are random accidents created by random scientific occurrences with no accountability or responsibility to a Creator.

One last point - just because someone refuses to believe that man randomly came into being over (pick the number of years) doesn't make him anti-science. In fact, that's what this whole debate is about. I could care less whether so called intelligent design or creationism is given equal time with evolution in a science classroom. What irks me is the absolute refusal of the evolutionists to even allow the discussion of scientific facts which would tend to challenge (maybe not absolutely demolish) some of its basic tenets. For example, I doubt that many high school biology students are going to learn that the fossil record seems to indicate that fish with bony teeth appeared "suddenly." Why? What are you guys so afraid of?

That's what causes me to say that evolution is a religious dogma. Religious dogma is always afraid to be challenged - even if it's disguised by the name Christian. Anyone who wants to challenge my belief in the Bible - I say bring it on. I haven't found any other system of belief that even comes close to explaining the history and current condition of mankind - especially not Darwinism!


136 posted on 02/10/2006 12:59:34 PM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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