Translation: government can usurp your property rights.
You support eminent domain.
"Banning a gun from my property, my car, "infringes on property rights"...
Repeating the lie again Josef?
No one is banning your gun from your car, you just have to park it off my property.
"Are you claiming eccentricity gives you the right to ban my car [w/gun inside] from your parking lot while I'm conducting business with you?"
No, my right as the owner of the property..the individual who paid for it, pays to maintain it, and pays taxes on it, gives me the right to set rules of access.
"Attempts to ban guns from parking lots are obviously disturbing 'domestic tranquility' in some States."
Translation: mob rule force of government trump individual rights.
Luis Gonzalez Translation: government can usurp your property rights.
Luis, you argued quite differently recently, -- and I agreed:
--- we govern according to what the Constitution says.
It says that Amendments apply to the States, and that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land:
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Quite true Luis, -- but then Article VI goes on to say that all officials "-- shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this Constitution; --"
Do you disagree with this principle?
Have you ever served in any official capacity, been a member of the armed forces, or a naturalized citizen?
-- All of us have sworn that oath..
-- Would you refuse to swear on the basis that "-- I, on the other hand, as a private citizen, am not bound by the Constitution. --"?
Absolutely. In theory, the government should only be able to usurp your property rights for the sole reason of protecting another citizen's basic Rights. For example, if you build a Russian military base on your property, the state would have the power to usurp your property Rights since the exercise of your rights infringed upon other citizens. Likewise, if I insisted on playing my radio too loud at 3:00 AM every morning, the state would seize my property if I didn't stop.
And if an employer starts using his property rights (parking lot) to infringe upon his worker's property rights (vehicle and weapon), then once again the state is justified in taking action to prevent it.
Your eminent domain comparison is silly since nobody would lose their property unless the employer insisted on conducting soviet-style searches of his employees private property in violation of the law. That's not an unreasonable request; no more than me not playing loud music at 3:00 in the morning and disturbing my neighbors.
No, my right as the owner of the property..the individual who paid for it, pays to maintain it, and pays taxes on it, gives me the right to set rules of access.
Your rules cannot trump another persons basic rights.
Please answer the following: should an employer be able to fire or hire anybody at any time for any reason? (Please don't cite existing laws.... I simply want to know if you think this should be the case in your perfect world.) Yes or No.