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Arrest Pedlars Of Hate, Police Urged (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-6-2006 | George Jones - Ben Fenton

Posted on 02/05/2006 5:58:36 PM PST by blam

Arrest pedlars of hate, police urged

By George Jones and Ben Fenton
(Filed: 06/02/2006)

Police were under pressure last night to adopt "a no tolerance" approach to Muslim demonstrators threatening violence in Britain after a third embassy was set on fire in the Middle East.

Government ministers and religious leaders appealed for calm as violent protests intensified across the Muslim world over cartoons mocking the Prophet Mohammed that were first published in Denmark.

Muslims in London protesting against the publication of cartoons they say are offensive

The Conservatives called for firm action against any further militant demonstrations as police faced growing criticism over their failure on Friday to arrest protesters in London who chanted and carried placards glorifying the July 7 London bombings and threatening beheadings.

Scotland Yard said it was studying film of the protests but refused to say if any prosecutions would go ahead.

Television pictures broadcast that evening showed the majority of placards in similar handwriting. One of three veiled women - or at least people who appeared to be women - was seen writing placards and distributing them. Most were held by men who had also hidden their identity.

Among the slogans were "Europe, your 9/11 will come" and, in an apparent reference to the four July 7 suicide bombers, "Europe you will pay, fantastic 4 are on their way". One protester was dressed as a suicide bomber.

The only arrests were of two counter-demonstrators, who police said were held after apparently attempting to hand out caricatures of Mohammed. Both were released without charge after a few hours.

Inayat Bunglawala, a spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain umbrella group, said last night: "The placards were quite disgraceful and seemed to constitute a clear incitement to violence, even murder."

He told Channel 4 News: "I think the police were right to take footage of the event and identify the ringleaders, because although several hundred people were there the placards were being held by a tiny group of extremists.

"I think people will understand that the police did not step in to make matters worse and were waiting for a more propitious time to charge these people. Most Muslims feel enormous distress and anguish at what has occurred. There will be no sympathy for [the extremists] when they are charged by the police."

A mob of 20,000 attacked Denmark's consulate in a Christian neighbourhood of Beirut yesterday. Denmark urged its citizens to leave Lebanon as soon as possible. On Saturday Syrian demonstrators set fire to the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus.

Iran's foreign ministry said it had joined Syria, Saudi Arabia and Libya in withdrawing diplomats from Copenhagen, while there were also protests in Afghanistan, Egypt and Turkey. Arla Foods, a Swedish-Danish company, said it was losing $1.8 million worth of sales a day in the Middle East. Its products were removed from shelves in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, and Peter Hain, the Northern Ireland Secretary, led Government appeals for calm but stopped short of endorsing Tory calls for the police to arrest militant protesters in future.

He said the violence, particularly the burning of Danish missions, was "totally unjustified and what we want to see is this matter being calmed down".

He praised the vast majority of Muslims in Britain who had protested peacefully and said it was "extremely impressive" that Muslim organisations had condemned the violence and the threats of violence.

Mr Hain called on all sides to "cool it" and said that politicians must not try to "second guess" police: "If people are on our streets inciting terrorism or promoting suicide bombings, they should be dealt with and dealt with toughly and firmly - and they will be.

"But that is the police's responsibility and they will discharge that."

David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said that slogans such as "Massacre those who insult Islam" amounted to incitement to murder and that police should take "a no tolerance" approach to them. He told the Sunday Telegraph:"Clearly, some of these placards are incitement to violence and indeed incitement to murder." Dominic Grieve, the Conservative legal affairs spokesman, expressed concern that it could prove impossible to identify those responsible because arrests had not been made at the time.

Scotland Yard, which has received at least 100 complaints from members of the public so far, defended the decision not to make arrests. It said the officer in charge at such scenes had to weigh the need to make arrests against the likelihood of provoking more serious unrest.

All complaints would be passed to the public order crime unit for further investigation. A spokesman said: "We have stated that arrests if necessary will be made at the most appropriate time.

"This should not be seen as a sign of a lack of activity. Specialist officers were deployed to record any potential event, should it be needed at any point in the future." She said the Crown Prosecution Service was responsible for deciding whether to press charges.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: arrest; hate; pedlars; police; ukmuslims; urged

1 posted on 02/05/2006 5:58:39 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Europe still doesn't get it.


2 posted on 02/05/2006 6:03:29 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Eurotwit

pong


3 posted on 02/05/2006 6:11:29 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: blam

In other words, we're afraid to arrest anyone because then they'll follow up on their threats.


4 posted on 02/05/2006 6:11:33 PM PST by jess35
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To: blam

Start in Morocco and work your way all the way across the map into Afghanistan, nuking and salting the earth until NOTHING stands.

That's how you will win this war.


5 posted on 02/05/2006 6:12:29 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: blam
"There will be no sympathy for [the extremists] when they are charged by the police."

In a word, bullshi'ite.

L

6 posted on 02/05/2006 6:14:22 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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To: nutmeg

FYI


7 posted on 02/05/2006 6:45:14 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

"Start in Morocco and work your way all the way across the map into Afghanistan, nuking and salting the earth until NOTHING stands. "


This bears repeating. I believe this is the only effective answer.


8 posted on 02/05/2006 6:51:30 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (As soon as you settle for less, you are stuck with less.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I am under the impression that Napalm will take out the people without destroying the structures. Am I under a false impression?


9 posted on 02/05/2006 6:54:36 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (As soon as you settle for less, you are stuck with less.)
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To: blam
The only arrests were of two counter-demonstrators, who police said were held after apparently attempting to hand out caricatures of Mohammed. Both were released without charge after a few hours.

That's the way to do it UK! Arrest the counter demonstrators./Sar

10 posted on 02/05/2006 7:27:19 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
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To: blam; Cornpone
One protester was dressed as a suicide bomber.

If I ever encounter anyone "dressed as a suicide bomber" or wearing what appears to be an "explosives belt", they're going to get shot dead immediately.

I will not risk my life, or the lives of my loved ones on the chance they were just "protesting".

11 posted on 02/05/2006 7:29:59 PM PST by 10mm
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To: Proud Conservative2
"I am under the impression that Napalm will take out the people without destroying the structures. Am I under a false impression?"

Yes you are. But, would you like to be my 'trigger-man?'

12 posted on 02/05/2006 7:32:32 PM PST by blam
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To: Leatherneck_MT

"Start in Morocco and work your way all the way across the map into Afghanistan, nuking and salting the earth until NOTHING stands.

That's how you will win this war."(Leatherneck_MT)

A solid plan, better than any being offered by our gov, NATO, UN, EU, etc. to win this war we did not start but would like to finish within this decade. It could be done in a weeks time if we were serious.


13 posted on 02/05/2006 8:12:07 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: blam

bttt


14 posted on 02/05/2006 8:14:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Proud Conservative2
I am under the impression that Napalm will take out the people without destroying the structures. Am I under a false impression?

Napalm is jellied gasoline. It sticks to things and burns whatever it is stuck to. You may be thinking of the Neutron bomb.

15 posted on 02/05/2006 8:38:32 PM PST by EricT. ("I reject your reality and substitute my own."-Adam Savage)
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To: blam
Hate laws are laws designed to politically control the white population, not anti-crime or morality enforcement. They are classic laws of colonialism designed to keep the natives down while they are being dispossessed. To not understand that is to not understand the nature of these laws. Every country in the West has such laws and in every country in the West they are applied with blatant hypocrisy. Still, if the hypocrisy gets too obvious the powers that be might be forced to make a minimum move against these demonstrators, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
16 posted on 02/05/2006 9:49:41 PM PST by jordan8
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To: Brilliant

Its especially sad to see that Britian seems to be more clueless than anyone else in Europe. They need to wake up and fast to the threat they've allowed into their midst.


17 posted on 02/05/2006 10:02:18 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Short of genocide or another holocaust there does need to be a program similar in nature to de-nazification. Militant Islam must cease to exist as anything other than an historical foot note. Whether this takes a coercive reformation or mass conversion to another faith it has to be done. This is not a new concept. The ancestors of all current Muslims were forcefully converted to Islam, I don't consider the status quo an acceptable condition.
18 posted on 02/05/2006 10:10:03 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Proud Conservative2
Start in Morocco and work your way all the way across the map into Afghanistan, nuking and salting the earth until NOTHING stands. "

This bears repeating. I believe this is the only effective answer.

Nope. All this could be settled permanently, by one nuke. Mecca goes *poof* then Islam goes *poof*. Muhammad stated that Allah would protect the "holy sites" (in Mecca). Should they be vaporized, then The Quran, Muhammad, and Islam are all proved to be frauds. End of problem...

the infowarrior

19 posted on 02/05/2006 10:56:06 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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