Replies

Fully qualified Americans are not exactly lining up for the soup kitchen.

No, a lot of them are working at Home Depot or selling furniture or doing whatever else they have to do to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. They've been doing that for several years since their IT and engineering job got outsourced overseas and they couldn't find another one in their specialty.

The President can call for all the technical students that he wants to. So long as we live in a world where an engineer in India makes 20% of an engineer in the U.S. then the U.S. worker will always be at a disadvantage. When companies can outsource overseas or bring in an unlimited number of cheaper replacements from overseas to compete with you then why should the U.S. student bother?

US wages are higher than they have ever been - the nonsense about dead end jobs won't fly. And "in their specialty?" Bright people don't wait around for "their specialty", they learn whatever is needed inside of six months. That is what makes them generally valuable.

No US workers are not at a disadvantage compared to Indian ones, because they are better and accomplish more. People earn their wages. If the Indian can do as much his wage will soon show it or he won't stay in India. And "replacements" from overseas may be cheap if the job is checkout at Home Depot, but if it is programming a computer to do automated translation through sophisticate models of human grammars combined with reinforcement learning, no they aren't cheap.

You can't make the smart mind of an India engineer less smart, or less valuable, or unsought by capital and those directing it. You either ally with that and work with it, or you put your head in the sand. Opposing illegality is reasonable. Opposing unskilled and unassimilated immigrants loafing on first world welfare is reasonable. Opposing geniuses moving to Silicon Valley from Bangalore is mindless ideological stupidity run amok.

Distinctions, people.

Fully qualified Americans are not exactly lining up for the soup kitchen. No, a lot of them are working at Home Depot or selling furniture or doing whatever else they have to do to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. They've been doing that for several years since their IT and engineering job got outsourced overseas and they couldn't find another one in their specialty.

Thanks, and well stated.

I'm living proof of that. Doing what I have to do while I complete nursing school.

SO COUNT THE IT JOB I COULD BE DOING AS "UNFILLED" BY A QUALIFIED AMERICAN CITIZEN.