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Why the .45 Matters
Strategy Page ^ | Feb 1, 2006

Posted on 02/01/2006 3:42:08 PM PST by John Jorsett

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To: Thunder90

LOL!


101 posted on 02/01/2006 7:08:47 PM PST by SirChas (I seem to be rapidly approaching the apex of my mediocre career)
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To: al baby
Blondes are not my "thing" but in this case I might make an exception.

Looks like good technique, both eyes open, finger not on the trigger until ready to fire etc. Cheek needs to be on the stock however. Also hair seems to be showing a few roots, nothing a trip to the stylist can't remedy.

On a completely different subject, do you know who her doctor may be. My wife has been contemplating a few "changes" and this lady seems to have had some experience with cosmetic surgery. Very Nice!! Any help in this regard will be appreciated.
102 posted on 02/01/2006 7:09:38 PM PST by saleman
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To: Scribbz
I have a .40 (glock) and it kicks like a mule.

Is it the M23? That has a rep for some barrel whip. But the real question is: How are you shooting when you make this judgment on recoil? IOW, Are you shooting at static targets on a range....ie "target shooting?" If so, try a course of fire with an IDPA club. IDPA Like the immortal words of the Sundance kid as played by Robert Redford: Can I move? I'm better when I move. Shooting in a simulated combat (as close as is safely possible) situation will tend to take your mind off recoil as you are concentrating on solving the tactical problem. You'll have to draw from concealed, take cover, reload in a tactical manner, shoot on the move and give voice commands appropriate to the scenario. It REALLY makes a difference.

103 posted on 02/01/2006 7:26:18 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: chainsaw
I can imagine the recoil from a smaller ligher .45 for women.

I have the lightweight Commander . . . it does have a little more recoil than the full size 1911A1, but it's perfectly controllable and doesn't affect sights-on-target.

Now my .455 Webley -- THERE's one that kicks like a mule!

104 posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:53 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SirChas

OK! I'm saving that one! LOL!


105 posted on 02/01/2006 7:30:49 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: mad_as_he$$
My dad says the same thing about the .45 in WWII, and a friend says the same thing about the .45 in Korea.

Dad took a long shot at the limit of practical range and it still knocked the guy off his feet. My friend said the only direction any ChiCom went when hit by the .45 was DOWN.

106 posted on 02/01/2006 7:33:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: calex59

"Big bullets let in a lot of air and let out a lot of blood."

-Elmer Keith


107 posted on 02/01/2006 7:35:44 PM PST by 43north (Liberals are obsessed by the vulgarity of their lives & the obscenity of their behavior.)
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To: Terabitten

The Desert Eagle: the first crew-served semi-automatic handgun.


108 posted on 02/01/2006 7:38:08 PM PST by 43north (Liberals are obsessed by the vulgarity of their lives & the obscenity of their behavior.)
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To: Thunder90

I love that thing!

It even has a microwave oven!!!

Hahaha!!!

Beverly Hills Cop 3, right??


109 posted on 02/01/2006 7:38:19 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure." President Reagan)
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To: mad_as_he$$
During the Southeast Asia War Games I popped a VC at about 125 yards with an M-16A1 FMJ 56 grain(I think)three times, he kept coming and coming and coming shooting his AK

Well done. I found that the Claymore was the weapon of choice in such circumstances, but that was just me.

110 posted on 02/01/2006 7:43:41 PM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Al Qaida's Best Friends)
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To: John Jorsett

111 posted on 02/01/2006 7:43:52 PM PST by eeevil conservative
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To: JCEccles

Not only did John Moses Browning design the incomparable M1911, but also the BAR - arguably the finest Squad Automatic Weapon ever designed - and the M1935 "Hi-Power", the first hi-capacity ".380 magnum" handgun ever AND the one that feels better in the hand than most other pistols.

Had he been Catholic instead of Mormon, I'd put him in for sainthood! Heck, the Catholic Church should make an exception for his case.


112 posted on 02/01/2006 7:47:36 PM PST by 43north (Liberals are obsessed by the vulgarity of their lives & the obscenity of their behavior.)
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To: Scribbz
I have a .40 (glock) and it kicks like a mule

Real Recoil 1
Real Recoil 2
Real Recoil 3

113 posted on 02/01/2006 7:49:08 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Hardastarboard
A buddy of mine who used to be in Special Forces in Viet Nam told me once "If you're down to fighting with handguns, you're in deep sh!t." Hard to argue with him on that point.

That would be true in open terrain, but in the cramped hallways of an Iraqi residence the M4 is a little bit too long to bring to bear quickly. That's one reason for the sudden interest in the 45.

I read an account of the TORA BORA campaign of two SpecOps guys clearing a cave complex from one of many directions. This team took the very cramped area and others were handling the other approaches. They rounded a hairpin in the tunnel and it opened out to a larger cavern, lit by a lamp and showing three "tango's" studying a map. One seated, two standing. Ak's were either slung or leaning against an unoccupied chair. The operators get within say thirty feet in the gloom outside the lamp glow before they're detected. All hell breaks loose. One operator has a M9 Beretta and the other an H&K MK21. The guy seated has the closest grab to a weapon, he catches rounds from both operators and slumps over. The guy on the right is taken by the H&K. One shot he goes down. This operator automatically swings his weapon to back up his buddy. THAT tango is still on his feet, the Beretta is still speaking and the H&K has time to join that conversation. That tango had taken three hits by the time the H&K got into the action and he was still in the fight.

I dunno if these were Delta, Rangers, SEALs or what. Because the presence of two different types of weapons and calibers seems to suggest either a "personal weapon of choice" in contravention of the regulations or a loose unit TO&E. That would suggest the D-Boys to me.

The point is, I learned at the Infantry Officer Basic Course that if you have to transition to a sidearm under most circumstances, indeed you did something very wrong! However, there are times when a handgun is the best possible solution. Sometimes you can't just toss in a grenade. Sometimes you've got to round that tight corner and use a handgun to best advantage. If I'm slicing the pie around a corner, I'm wanting a 45 and not a 9mm if I can help it.

114 posted on 02/01/2006 7:49:19 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: SirChas

bookmk ping


115 posted on 02/01/2006 7:52:42 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: stumpy; MoralSense

Remember,

Two to the chest,
one to the head,
makes sure they're,
really dead.


116 posted on 02/01/2006 7:52:58 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SLB; Squantos; Eaker; Joe Brower; Travis McGee

Didn't see any pings to you guys. Mid-week gun pr0n.


117 posted on 02/01/2006 7:57:08 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Yehuda

gun porn thread ,

... I'm thinking about marketing adjustable racks for #50

... prototype made already , [ popsicle sticks ]


118 posted on 02/01/2006 8:00:00 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: Disambiguator
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119 posted on 02/01/2006 8:01:39 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: SirChas
I've got one of those as well.

A very good gun if you want to hit what you are aiming for.

Which, at the end of the day, is the most important aspect of shooting.

120 posted on 02/01/2006 8:02:49 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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