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French Parliamentarian Fined Thousands of Euros for 'Homophobia'
LifeSiteNews ^ | 27 January 2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 01/27/2006 3:37:50 AM PST by Aussie Dasher

LILLE, France, January 26, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A court in Lille handed down its sentence on a French Parliamentarian Tuesday, fining him 3000 Euros and forcing him to pay an additional 6000 Euros to be split between three homosexual activist groups who brought the charges against the MP. Christian Vanneste, a member of the UMP representing the Lille region was found guilty in December on charges of violating a French law barring "hate speech" against homosexuals.

However, Vanneste in the remarks upon which the charges were based and in his defence, was clear that he was not speaking against homosexual persons but homosexual sex acts. In his defence he said "Homosexual acts are socially and morally inferior . . . To describe a behavior which is not beneficial for society is not discriminating against those who make the choice of homosexuality," he said.

The remarks which were found to be offensive were originally made in parliament during the debate on the hate speech law which Vanneste opposed, and more recently repeated to newspapers. In Parliament he said that the idea of making "homophobia" illegal was a "contradiction in terms ... This will bolster the notion that homosexual behaviour has the same value as any other kind of behaviour, when, in fact, it is obvious that it is a threat to the survival of humanity."

The conviction and sentence marks the first politician to be prosecuted under France's homosexual hate speech law that was enacted in December 2004.

Vanneste said the ruling was extremely grave and calls into question freedom of expression. He said he would appeal the decision.

The ruling also impinges on freedom of religion since criminalizing speech against homosexual acts would lead to charges against persons stating the faith positions of major religions.

Comments against homosexual acts are common from Christians who believe, as a matter of faith, that such acts are gravely immoral. Homosexual acts are portrayed in Scripture as a "grave depravity" and an "abomination." Also, the Catechism of the Catholic Church says that that such acts are "intrinsically disordered and contrary to the natural law," adding that "they can never be approved."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bloodyfrogs; fags; france; freespeech; gayimperialism; heterophobia; homophobia; homosexualagenda; moralityphobia; persecution; poofters; rule1
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What we have all known for years is now official: France is STUFFED!

Screw the Frogs!

1 posted on 01/27/2006 3:37:52 AM PST by Aussie Dasher
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Soon they'll be fined for "failure to commit a daily unnatural act".


2 posted on 01/27/2006 3:41:18 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Aussie Dasher

Words fail.






Good thing, too. Wouldn't want to be sued.


3 posted on 01/27/2006 3:41:29 AM PST by RightOnline
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"The ruling also impinges on freedom of religion since criminalizing speech against homosexual acts would lead to charges against persons stating the faith positions of major religions."

Coming soon to a church or synagogue near you.


4 posted on 01/27/2006 3:43:59 AM PST by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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"Comments against homosexual acts are common from Christians who believe, as a matter of faith.."





that is pure BS, its not 'just' a matter of faith, its a violation of a natural law of nature that still disgusts the other 97% of the world population


5 posted on 01/27/2006 3:45:42 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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" To describe a behavior which is not beneficial for society is not discriminating against those who make the choice of homosexuality," he said. "

Well said!

It's simply amazing that the perverted have so "guilted" the rest of us into this p.c. crap. Now the simple expression of truth is considered hateful and a crime, whats next the grimmace, the sideways glance?

6 posted on 01/27/2006 3:47:41 AM PST by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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Wait a minute, he said those things during a debate regarding the creation of the 'hate speech' law? So, he wasn't breaking law, yet.

Laws regulating speech can be very dangerous.


7 posted on 01/27/2006 3:49:21 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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Frogs ce'st pa, screw au naturalis ce'st assumptionne?


8 posted on 01/27/2006 3:52:07 AM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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You'll certainly get no argument from me!

Is that something along the lines of "Screw the Frogs"?


9 posted on 01/27/2006 3:54:16 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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This is exactly where the American left would like to take us. All the talk radio show hosts would be sued until they are silenced.

It would be a selective censorship, where bashing of Christians, Jews and conservative ideas would of course be encouraged.

The worst 'sins' of all would be speaking against homosexuality, abortion or Islam.

10 posted on 01/27/2006 3:55:10 AM PST by Sender (As water has no constant form, there are in war no constant conditions. -Sun Tzu)
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Believe me, it's closer than you think.


11 posted on 01/27/2006 4:11:32 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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Which is why I pray that the Lord will give the elderly Justice Stevens his eternal reward ASAP.


12 posted on 01/27/2006 4:20:40 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Notwithstanding

May he RIP ASAP.


13 posted on 01/27/2006 4:22:38 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Newspeak....Thought police.


14 posted on 01/27/2006 4:27:38 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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It may have started with the French , but its coming soon to a country near you. Hate laws are Bullshiite.

It wont belong before turning down an invitation from a queer will be a hate act.


15 posted on 01/27/2006 4:59:52 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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We have a couple of Christian pastors up before the beak down here for speaking the truth about Islam.

Not John Howard's fault. We have a Labor (socialist) State Government in Victoria.


16 posted on 01/27/2006 5:04:48 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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The remarks which were found to be offensive were originally made in parliament during the debate on the hate speech law which Vanneste opposed

I wonder what happens when one is offended by some anti-christian speech?

17 posted on 01/27/2006 5:11:43 AM PST by jeffc
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Obviously my tagline is illegal in France. But I don't hate gay cowboys. I simply think cowboys are supposed to be heroic and wear white hats and fight bad guys and kiss their horses, not each other. Gay cowboys are too, too thilly.

I wonder if it's illegal to be disgusted with Hollywood.

18 posted on 01/27/2006 5:16:01 AM PST by T'wit (Brokeback Mountain: the love that dare not yippie-kai-yay-kai-yea its name.)
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"To describe a behavior which is not beneficial for society is not discriminating against those who make the choice of homosexuality," he said."

This is nothing but legalized extortion. He expresses a perfectly natural and sensible opinion and now must pay thousands, not to the state, but to the perverts. Actually in this case, the state and the perverts are indistinguishable.


19 posted on 01/27/2006 5:21:46 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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"But I don't hate gay cowboys. I simply think cowboys are supposed to be heroic and wear white hats and fight bad guys and kiss their horses, not each other. Gay cowboys are too, too thilly. "

FWIW, I recently learned that the gays in BBM are Sheepherders, NOT COWBOYS. The Hollywood trash obviously doesn't know the difference.


20 posted on 01/27/2006 5:26:04 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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