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To: Designer
And we have the United Nations, but if you really want to see the sparks fly on FR, just try suggesting that we (the U.S.) get out of the U.N.

Nothing wrong with the suggestion. After all, Americans refused to join the League of Nations, and I guess no harm came from that......

But I'm not an apologist for the United Nations. It is in complete disarray and requires major surgery. My reality however is that as long as we are in it for the long haul, let's fix it. Others would move us out of the UN and disband all treaties and agreements we have entered into over the past hundred years or so.

I surmise you simply wake up in the morning and look outside to see what the forces of evil have accomplished last night, then squeeze out some more toothpaste. I, for one, am simply not going to stand by and allow our Constitution to be trashed.

First, try and make your argument without attempting to denigrate the opposition. It doesn't work with me. I just get cantankerous too. Second, other than broad statements about trashing the Constitution, I'm not sure how to respond. I asked you some questions earlier about your more serious charges about CAFTA, but got no answer. Hopefully this will emanate into a two way conversation.

246 posted on 01/23/2006 12:33:03 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
Others would move us out of the UN and disband all treaties and agreements we have entered into over the past hundred years or so.

It's only been 60 years since the U.N. was formed.

Look, I know the strategy; if I start to try to explain how CAFTA and others denigrate our sovreignty, you will come back with a rejoinder, which in your mind at least, will mean that you have successfully countered my argument.

If you didn't like my earlier examples of how it and others will destroy our sovreignty, perhaps you should try to understand why I think they do. To wit; any multi-national agreement (treaty) that sets some non-accountable agency above our own Senate, House, Executive Branch, and Judiciary, will, in my book, detract from our national sovreignty.

And it has already happened. The WTO effectively dictates our domestic farm policy. NAFTA has interceded in our ability to make trade agreements, and since I and other FReepers made reference many times to the CAFTA will exacerbate the illegal immigration issue, I don't know why you still have trouble seeing the loss of our sovreignty.

And, as I have already posted; the FTAA is "trade" agreements on steroids. (Actually, it is more about control than trade, but I have said that many times as well.)

248 posted on 01/23/2006 12:51:22 PM PST by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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