Posted on 01/18/2006 1:03:24 PM PST by neverdem
have you not met Mr. Non-Sequitur, the Damnyankee Minister of Propaganda???
N-S is the ONLY one of the unionists on FR, who has both sound education AND a FUNCTIONING brain. (for those 2 reasons alone, he has my respect, even though he is an opponent of dixie LIBERTY.)
nonetheless, his BUSINESS is PROPAGANDA. you should never forget that.
and GOOD MORNING to you, Mr Minister, on the 199th birthday of the peerLESS GEN LEE.
free dixie,sw
Yes. I do remember the screen name from a couple other postings. It would appear that a refresher course was needed. And I do thank you for the reminder, as sometimes- as we all do, I forget!
Oh, I forgot to mention how incredibly funny the part about the FUNCTIONING brain is.
chuckle.
free dixie,sw
the rest of the "DY coven" seem to me to be a motley collection of arrogant,deceitful,semi-literate,MEAN-spirited, SELF-righteous fools/cretins/lunatics/REVISIONISTS/HATERS/bigots and at least 2 TROLLS (who seem only to be on the forum to "cause discord" among the other members, to NO positive purpose).
too bad there are not more unionists like N-S.
free dixie,sw
Additionally, Lincoln did have the right to suspend Habeas Corpus under Section 9 of the Constitution:“The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”
Finally, y'all seem to have left out one overriding concept for the Southern States throughout this entire discussion, and it is a concept that is still being forgotten by the current president: states rights. The 10th Amendment specifically states: ”Powers of the States and People. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Chew on that for a while. . .
OK....my retort.
Section 1 is invalid. By the legal act of secession, there is NO REBELLION or INSURRECTION, hence, it doesn't apply in this case.
Section 2 is invalid because the states formed a new nation.
a little something for you to "chew" in return :)
In other words, you don't want to actually debate with facts and you're not interested in anything that might interfere with the conclusions you've already reached.
Just like Watie, actually.
Just like Watie, actually.
Okay, he's my Freeper BUDDY. But you're wrong, because you are dealing with a wrong premise...You'd be right, if you had a right premise...I simply will not argue on a wrong premise. Mostly, because it's just wrong!
This from a man who has repeatedly been caught manufacturing evidence and outright lying. Say, what was Lincoln called by the Indians of upstate New York during the Blackhawk war? "Kills the Children" or something like that? Even though he was never near New York at that time, never saw action in the war, and the tribes of upstate NY weren't involved?
And then there's the U-boat you said was on display in Galveston, the conversation you claimed to have with Dr. Lubar, the imaginary books, the cotton harvester, Jim Ranchino's college, the college of whichever of your alleged professors said the "they should have cared, they did not quote" (you've had that poor guy at four different colleges), and H.C. Blackerby's credentials.
By the way, since we're on the topic of Blackerby, let me just say what a letdown that book is. Basically it's a collection of random paragraphs strung together, anecdotal stories about blacks with the confederate army. No coherent argument to be found. And the "Blacks in Gray" section is only 40 pages of a small duodecimo volume. With big type.
***HAPPY BIRTHDAY to GENERAL ROBERT E. LEE***
Does that mean you're an imaginary "buddy" like the rest of watie's friends?
So if a state can invalidate the Constitution anytime it wishes for any reason it chooses, what good is the Constitution? If you are correct, the Constitution is a worthless piece of parchment.
Not at all. The states called secession conventions, so the will of the people prevailed. In many cases, there was even a popular vote, (Texas ,for example)It only invalidates the Constitution for those who choose to leave. The will of the people is even more important than the Constitution.
Be nice now, Ditto. After all, you're addressing a lady. Didn't your Mama raise you right? :)
bttt
I'm always a gentelman, but if it's watie's friend, it could just be a figment. Mama never told me how to deal with them.
Very well said...
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable and most sacred right, a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world.
--Abraham Lincoln speech in the US House of Representatives in 1848
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