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President Bush this is what you should do-
Marze Por Gohar ^ | Mani Aryamand

Posted on 01/15/2006 3:50:23 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports

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To: Thermalseeker

well my friend, talk is cheap! Iranian have time after time showed their hatred for the mullahs.

At this time I think the way things look like the Bush admin are going in the wrong direction so dont be surprised if you soon have mullah with nuke and a craze mind such as mullahs should scare you. They will lend any resources they want to terrrorist to care out the attack.
You are correct the opposition is great and it has been for the last decade while nothing has be dine to support them. On the countrary until 6 month a go IR had the full support of the europians. I admire President Bush for standing tall and firm against the mullahs and his speeches are great but action is long due.

At this moment the Iranian are tired and gopeless as they have fought this war along without any actuall help, any uprising without the help from outside is unlikely.
We would hate to see that our country get attacked and you hate to see your fellow country men get killed, we have the same view here and there are ways to avoid this. One action is to support the oppsotion to deal with mullahs after all Iranian have had a long experience with these bastards.


41 posted on 01/15/2006 7:29:36 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
Trying diplomacy with Islamic Republics Tehran is as effective and practical as beating a dead horse; it is a one-way, dead-end street.

But Dubya EXCELS at beating dead horses...
Lookit how he keeps our economy plodding along, just by throwing worthless money at it!!!

The only option that remains is regime change.

But it would be more "compassionate" to offer them a "free trade" agreement.
Just explain to Mr. Ahmadinejad how such a scheme could benefit his personal bank account, and even HE will forget about Islam.
EVERYBODY has their price at which they can be bought-off.
Heck, it's worth a try...
Afterall, it's not as if Americans will ever be able to repay their National Debt anyway...

42 posted on 01/15/2006 7:37:07 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: JasonC

Things which can go wrong will go wrong.
take alook at this article:
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060112-094747-3687r

As you see the best thing is regime change as we agree. The details can be worked out nad when 85% is against the regime things may go fast!


43 posted on 01/15/2006 7:38:35 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Willie Green

You must look ahread in time and democracy and secularism in the middle east is the answer to a better world.
You should not be after to cover the problem but to SOLVE it.


44 posted on 01/15/2006 7:40:33 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Thermalseeker

As the japanese admiral supposedly said after bombing Pearl Harbor: "I am afraid we have awakened a sleeping tiger and only strengthened its resolve."

If Iran's posture moves to nuclear action...Iran will meet the tiger regardless of the liberal bleeding heart mindset.


45 posted on 01/15/2006 7:41:54 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
I am not the slightest bit worried about what communists say in the press, nor about the non-existent Iranian air force, nor about the USAF's entirely imaginary inability to hit whatever it pleases as long as it takes. Iran has no power that scares the US. Our domestic political issues with our own traitors are the only limit we face. I'd vastly prefer a new pro-US regime in Iran and have since 1979. But wishes are not horses. If you and your friends don't get off your backsides, expect pain. The US is not going to be deterred by biased editorials nor pipsqueek threats from Iran.
46 posted on 01/15/2006 8:07:21 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
well my friend, talk is cheap! Iranian have time after time showed their hatred for the mullahs.

You are absolutely right. Talk is cheap and merely protesting in the streets of Tehran isn't going to overthrow the Theocracy. It will take armed resistance from within and so far your opposition movement doesn't seem to have the will to take up arms against the Mullahs. You should not make the mistake of lumping the United States in with the European appeasers. To them, talk is very cheap, but when it gets right down to it, the Europeans will not even defend themselves, much less your opposition movement. It will take an armed rebellion from within your country. Your people must have the will to violently overthrow the Mullahs, regardless of how long you have hated them and what you have done to oppose them up to this point. It is your fight now, but if your opposition movement allows the Mullahs to launch an attack or series of attacks against the United States or Israel on behalf of Iran as a country, particularly if those attacks involve nukes, it will be our fight then and as I've said I guarantee you will not like the result.

The future of Iran is in your hands, not ours. It is your country, not ours. You had better be willing to give your life for your cause, otherwise your country may very well cease to exist in the not too distant future. I would respectfully suggest that you and others like you get busy. There is a lot to do and time is of the essence.....

47 posted on 01/15/2006 8:13:27 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: JasonC
If you and your friends don't get off your backsides, expect pain. The US is not going to be deterred by biased editorials nor pipsqueek threats from Iran.

Well said!

48 posted on 01/15/2006 8:15:22 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: JasonC

If the opposition is not assisted and the course with is pursued right now ( UN) is followed one day you will wake up and read the headline you never thought you will read!


49 posted on 01/15/2006 8:31:08 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Thermalseeker

I try to say this as simple as possibe!

Without help the oppsition cant do much!!!Why? 27 years of fight have wore people out...

A nuke Islamic republic will be your problem as well and dont have to much hopes of Us handling this alone...

You need the help of the Iranian opposition while the opposition need your help! win-win situation dont make it complicated for yourself!


50 posted on 01/15/2006 8:34:09 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Thermalseeker

I hope that the people in charge are more into this than you guys other wise we are all doomed!!

Iam very dissappointed! You think the opposition have been doing nothing for the past 27 years? well I realy hope there are people reading this that know better!


51 posted on 01/15/2006 8:36:16 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
Wow I'm just scared silly. What are you actually doing to overthrow the government of Iran?
52 posted on 01/15/2006 8:56:34 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
I dont even wnat to think of the consequenses if the regime is still in power after being attacked. It would be like a hurt beast ready to to everything...

I intend to reserve judgement on your motivation for promoting this.

53 posted on 01/15/2006 9:06:15 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports
I hope that the people in charge are more into this than you guys other wise we are all doomed!!

Although I have no specific knowledge one way or the other, I suspect that we are far more "into" this than you realize. The United States of America is not doomed by any threat that comes from Iran, you might be, but we aren't. We might very well take some hits, but the response will be devastating to Iran if they are attributed to it. The United States of America isn't going to be "doomed" by any third world Theocracy like that in Iran. If you believe that the USA is doomed by a threat coming from Iran you are ignorant to the history of the United States of America.

I am very dissappointed! You think the opposition have been doing nothing for the past 27 years?

No, I didn't say the opposition has been doing nothing, I said that the opposition will need to undertake a violent uprising to overthrow the Mullahs and you and others like you will probably have to die in the process. To date, I cannot point to any sustained violent uprising against the Mullahs with sufficient internal support so as to be effective. All I am aware of is public demonstrations where people take to the streets, the Army is called out and the resistance flees like rats off a sinking ship. Has anyone made any coordinated effort to take out vital infrastructure? Has anyone made any coordinated effort to co-opt the military? Has anyone made any coordinated effort to eliminate people in powerful positions within the Theocracy? Perhaps you would like to educate me?

well I realy hope there are people reading this that know better!

I would speculate that the vast majority of people who read this realize that the overthrow of the Theocracy in Iran must come from within. You and your com padres simply cannot sit by and wait for the United States to solve your internal strife. You must at least make a serious, violent effort to curb your Mullahs while it is still an internal matter in order to get noticed. Try destroying your oil infrastructure and watch the world take notice.

54 posted on 01/15/2006 9:06:15 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker

Eventhough I repeated this matter before it seems like it has been left unnoticed.
During the past 27 years the europian countried have help the Islamic republic with equipments and trainee to detect and eliminate the opposition within. With the resources and the knowledge it was not a hard task to complete the elimination hence there are no structure singnals and movement as you mention. However the lack of such movement is not in the meaning that it cannot happen, in the contrary it could happen but the very first you need it resources to organize the opposition and neautrize the govermental pressure.

As for the Amrica I realy hope that nothing happens to the country nor do I want ot see my country get hurt but the first lesson is not to underestimnate the enemy.

If we go back to the article that I posted you will see that it is Iranian themselfs that want to get rid of the regime but to do that we need to have resources as the Islamic republic has had 27 years to build up its defence!

I hope Iam clear


55 posted on 01/15/2006 9:17:34 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: Marze Por Gohar Reports

I have been hearing more and more journalists, politicians, pundits, people in general, calling for regime change in Iran. I just hope there's time to accomplish it.


56 posted on 01/16/2006 6:54:14 PM PST by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: Brooklyn Kid

We have been saying this frmm day one and finaly the world seem to be waking up, yet the US is in the front line in this war and EU -eventhough feeling the danger- is yet to become in the same situation. It is not too late yet but it will be soon.


57 posted on 01/17/2006 3:58:34 AM PST by Marze Por Gohar Reports
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To: eastforker
...at what cost.

Rather you should ask... how many nukes will Iran give the jihadists... to take out how many cities in the US.

58 posted on 01/17/2006 4:09:35 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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