[Mr. Silverback]

Back to skyscrapers, I see. There must be a 12 step group for that.

Let me deal with this issue and then get to the larger point:

You need to cite YOUR source that says the US Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction over U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3 (1868)

OK...I'll type it so you can read it this time...

Amendment 14 Sec 5 gives CONGRESS the power to enforce Sections 1 through 4.

Got it? Now, if you have a Constitutional provision that gives the SCOTUS the right to remove Senators, serve it up. It wouldn't change my mind completely on the wisdom of your tactics, but it might change my tactical mindset some.

Now, let me tell you a true story about I guy I interviewed once.

His name is Michael Franzese. He once was one of the youngest and most successful mob bosses ever, a capo in the Colombo family in NYC. Just one of his schemes that evaded the gas tax at gas stations in his territory was bringing in $5 million per week, which was about half as much as the “Teflon Don” John Gotti made each year at the top of his game. A massive task force with officers from 14 agencies was formed just to get him--not the Colombo family, just him. He was indicted for racketeering three times, and tried five times, once with Rudy Giuliani leading the prosecution team personally.

But they didn't get him. He eventually went to prison, but that was because he had become a Christian and decided that he should plead guilty and pay for his crimes.

Why didn't they get him when he was a known rising star in the Mafia? Tom Brokaw said right on TV that this guy was a mobster and they couldn't get a jury to send him to jail? One thing he told me was that many organized crime prosecutions fail because prosecutors know beyond doubt that the mobsters are guilty of something (after all, they're mobsters), and this tends to color their perception of the evidence and how the jury will see the evidence. He said, “They know who you are, and you’re a target.” So they go to trial with evidence that's not sufficient for the jury. He believes that's why Gotti (who was dumb as a post) was acquitted the first two times.

Now, imagine you're one of Rudy Giuliani's team. Imagine you've worked for years on getting Franzese. And imagine you said to him, "Boss, we know Franzese is guilty, but the jury is not going to give us a conviction. Something has to change before we bring this to trial. We need to do more work, but we can do it. If we go now and don't get a conviction, it will hurt our operations immeasurably."

Rudy turns to you and yells, "You're working for the Mafia, aren't you? You don't care at all about the people this man has hurt. You don't have your priorities straight! You haven't done any work for this team at all! And if any person who's been victimized by the Mafia heard you, they would know you care more about the comfort and success of the Mafia than you do about justice!"

Now, wouldn't you think Rudy was out of line? Maybe looking too closely at the bark of the tree to see the forest?

Well, that's what's going on with you. And the way I know it is not because your plan is unworkable, but because when anyone challenges you to show how it would work, you accuse them of dishonoring the troops, of being insufficiently loyal to the Republic, and (now in my case) even of not doing enough for the election of the President. It is like the tunnel vision that affects some shooters...they become so drilled in on the target and the sight picture that they lose their situational awareness and end up shooting friendlies.

I don't spend time on FR crowing about my work, but I'm going to say this here so that the next time you decide somebody hasn't been following the Gospel According to Tonk closely enough, you will think twice, and maybe avoid shooting into our own ranks.

I served my nation. I will not speak of the difficulties I endured, because they would be small next to those endured by many others who I lend my support to now.

I organized a weekly troop support demonstration that is still going after almost three years.

I have frozen and baked my can out there every week. I also made time to counter every appearance of appeaseniks in my area and alert Freepers all over the country to appeasnik activity they can counter. I hoped make sure there were Freepers waiting for Hanoi Kerry at every campaign stop, and I did my best.

I have done pro bono writing work for troop support organizations. I bill my writing at several tens of dollars per hour, but I did this for free because it was for the troops. I have gotten writer's cramp writing letters to troops I don't even know.

On the political side, I have lent my support to this president ever since before it was down to him and McCain, supporting him and the troops with my writing, my time, my presence.

And yet, you question my commitment to the cause, all because I disagree on a tactical approach. Because I tell you we need to do more work before we can get this guy.

Your conduct is shameful. You're a better man than this. Take your eyes off that bark a minute and get a grip.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"Your conduct is shameful. You're a better man than this. Take your eyes off that bark a minute and get a grip."

Guess you don't like that I don't
and never will contribute one dime to the GOP.

You are the one who can't admit that if was not for
men like John O'Neill and Zell Miller that you
would be saying president hanoi kerry

At least Karl Rove and many, many others now the real
truth about the '04 election.

Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Kerry Positioning himself for 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180361,00.html

Jerome R. Corsi and Scott Swett

Read about it in John Kerry and the VVAW: Hanoi's American Puppets?
by Dr. Jerome Corsi (FReeper jrlc)
and Scott Swett (FReeper Interesting Times)
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php

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John Kerry and the VVAW:
>
>Hanoi's American Puppets?
>
>Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese
>communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a
>close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the * Vietnam Veterans
>Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading
>national spokesman.
>
>The Circular: International Coordination of Antiwar Propaganda
>The first document is a 1971 "Circular" distributed by the Vietnamese
>communists within Vietnam. It discusses strategies to coordinate their
>national propaganda effort with their orchestration of the activities of
>sympathetic counterparts in the American anti-war movement.
>Specifically, the document notes that the Vietcong and North Vietnamese
>delegations to the Paris Peace talks were being used as the
>communications link to direct the activities of anti-war activists
>meeting with them in Paris. To quote from the document:
>The spontaneous antiwar movements in the US have received assistance and
>guidance from the friendly ((VC/NVN)) delegations at the Paris Peace
>Talks.
>
>-- Circular on Antiwar Movements in the US. The reference to "VC"
>indicates the Vietcong; "NVN" is the North Vietnamese government.
>
>This sentence is particularly important in light of John Kerry's
>admission that he met with leaders of both communist delegations to the
>Paris Peace Talks in June 1970, including Madame Binh, foreign minister
>of the Provisional Revolutionary Government (PRG) of South Vietnam, also
>known as the Vietcong. FBI files record that Kerry returned to Paris to
>meet with the North Vietnamese delegation in August of 1971, and planned
>a third trip in November.
>
>Prior to the discovery of the Circular, there was no direct evidence
>that Hanoi was actually steering the U.S. antiwar movement's activities
>by conveying Hanoi's goals and wishes to movement leaders during their
>frequent visits to Paris, though many investigators had assumed that to
>be the case. Further analysis of this document supports the contention
>that Madame Binh used her Paris meeting with John Kerry to instruct him
>on how he and the VVAW might best serve as Hanoi's surrogates in the
>United States. In the spring and summer of 1971, a key strategy of Hanoi
>was to advance what was known as Madame Binh's Seven Point Peace Plan.
>
>The plan was cleverly constructed to force President Nixon to set a date
>to end the Vietnam War and withdraw American troops. According to the
>7-Point Peace Plan of Madame Binh, the only barrier to Hanoi setting a
>date to release American Prisoners of War was President Nixon's
>unwillingness to set a specific date for military withdrawal. Of course,
>accepting the full terms of the 7-Point Peace Plan would have amounted
>to an American capitulation, a virtual surrender that included the
>payment of reparations to the Vietnam communists as an admission that
>America was the wrongful aggressor in an immoral war.
>
>A section of the Circular titled
>"PREPARATION FOR THE FALL ((1971)) ANTIWAR MOVEMENT" makes clear the
>importance the Vietnamese Communists placed on advancing Madame Binh's
>7-Point Peace Plan within the United States:
>
>The seven-point peace proposal ((of the SVN Provisional Revolutionary
>Government)) not only solved problems concerning the release of US
>prisoners but also motivated the people of all walks of life and even
>relatives of US pilots detained in NVN to participate in the antiwar
>movement.
>
>-- Circular on Antiwar Movements in the US. "SVN" indicates the South
>Vietnam Provisional Revolutionary Government, i.e., the Vietcong. "NVN"
>refers to North Vietnam.
>
>And again, highlighting how the Vietnamese communists viewed the
>activities of the US antiwar movement, US politics, and politics in
>South Vietnam as interconnected; all to be targeted by Madame Binh's
>7-Point Peace Plan:
>
>The Nixon-Thieu clique is very embarrassed because the seven-point peace
>proposal is supported by the SVN people's (( political struggle))
>movement and the antiwar movements in the US. Therefore, all local
>areas, units, and branches must widely disseminate the seven-point peace
>proposal, step up the people's ((political struggle)) movements both in
>cities and rural areas, taking advantage of disturbances and dissensions
>in the enemy's forthcoming (RVN) Congressional and Presidential
>elections. They must coordinate more successfully with the antiwar
>movements in the US so as to isolate the Nixon-Thieu clique.
>
>-- Circular on Antiwar Movements in the US. "RVN" refers to the Republic
>of Vietnam, the government in South Vietnam supported by the US. POW
>Families: Targets of the Vietnamese Communists
>
>Late in 1970, a defecting Vietcong organizer described a communist plan
>to use Vietcong sympathizers in the US to recruit family members of
>American POWs held captive in North Vietnam. The following summary of
>his interview was provided to the House Foreign Affairs Committee:
>
>The Viet Cong plan to continue their efforts to win worldwide opinion to
>their side and to solicit as much material support for the VC struggle
>as possible from other countries in order to create a favorable climate
>for the VC at the Paris Peace Conference.
>
>The Viet Cong will continue to promote domestic unrest against the war
>in the United States in order to speed withdrawal of US troops and
>create pressure for an end to the war.
>
>Efforts will be directed toward the US soldier in Vietnam to demand that
>they be returned to the US and be reunited with their families and
>wives.
>
>The VC will strive to create anti-draft and anti-war attitudes in the US
>by organizing VC sympathizers in the US to contact families with sons in
>Vietnam and urge them to call their sons home. Also VC sympathizers in
>the US will be organized to distribute anti-draft leaflets to students
>and young people.
>
>On February 1, 1971, at their Winter Soldier Investigation in Detroit,
>the VVAW released a statement by Virginia Warner, mother of American POW
>Jim Warner, urging President Nixon to "end the war so the prisoners of
>war can come home." Jim Warner has accused John Kerry of exploiting his
>mother's fears to obtain this statement.
>
>On July 22, 1971, John Kerry held a press conference in Washington, DC,
>to call upon President Nixon to accept Madame Binh's 7-Point Peace Plan.
>Kerry surrounded himself at the press conference with POW wives, parents
>and sisters who had been recruited to promote his message. The event was
>reported in The New York Times of July 23, 1971 and the communist Daily
>World of July 24, 1971. Each article included a photograph of Kerry
>surrounded by POW family members.
>
>Kerry's use of POW families directly advanced the North Vietnamese
>communist agenda as described by enemy defectors and in the newly
>discovered Circular, which suggests that Madame Binh had recommended the
>same course of action to antiwar activists meeting with her in Paris.
>
>[Note: A number of POW families were contacted by a "liason" group
>headed by Cora Weiss, the daughter of Communist Party financier Samuel
>Rubin, with offers to provide mail and information about their husbands
>if the families agreed to publicly denounce the war. Most POW family
>members refused to cooperate with this extortion, even when promised
>better treatment for their husbands or sons in Hanoi. Four angry POW
>wives protested at Kerry's July press conference, one of whom accused
>Kerry of "constantly using our own suffering and grief" to advance his
>political ambitions.]
>
>The Directive: Supporting the US Domestic Insurgency
>
>The second document, captured by US military forces in South Vietnam on
>May 12, 1972, is a communist Directive designed to motivate discussions
>within Vietnam about promoting the ongoing antiwar activities in the
>United States. The fifth paragraph of this document makes clear that the
>Vietnamese communists were utilizing for their propaganda purposes the
>activities of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The protest
>described as occurring from April 19 through April 22, 1971 coincides
>directly with the dates of Dewey Canyon III, the Washington, DC, protest
>led by John Kerry, during which John Kerry's testimony before Senator
>Fulbright's Foreign Relations Committee was a televised centerpiece. The
>description of the protest activities in the Directive even include the
>"return their medals" ceremony in which John Kerry and other VVAW
>members threw their medals and/or ribbons toward the steps of the US
>Capitol, with several shouting threats of violence against their
>government as they did so.
>
>The Connection: The People's Committee for Peace and Justice
>Another key discussion in the documents reveals the degree to which the
>Vietnamese communists were working with and through the PCPJ (People's
>Coalition for Peace and Justice. The Circular, immediately after
>disclosing how the communist delegations to the Paris Peace talks were
>being used to guide the US antiwar movement, stresses the importance of
>the PCPJ to these efforts:
>
>Of the US antiwar movements, the two most important ones are: The PCPJ
>((the People's Committee for Peace and Justice)) and the NPAC ((National
>Peace Action Committee)). These two movements have gathered much
>strength and staged many demonstrations. The PCPJ is the most important.
>It maintains relations with us.
>
>-- Circular on Antiwar Movements in the US (emphasis added).
>The House Internal Security Committee in its 1971 Annual Report
>described the PCPJ as an organization strongly controlled by US
>communists: "There is no question but what members of the Communist
>Party have provided a very strong degree of influence, even a guiding
>influence, in the evolution and formation of policies of the People's
>Coalition for Peace and Justice."
>
>Recently released FBI surveillance reports establish a strong link
>between John Kerry, Al Hubbard, the VVAW, the PCPJ, and their trips to
>Paris to meet with Madame Binh. As discussed in Unfit for Command,
>Hubbard, the Executive Secretary of the VVAW and a hard-line radical
>with ties to the Black Panthers and the PCPJ, had directly recruited
>John Kerry into the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the
>organization's election process.
>
>Al Hubbard's own claim to have been a transport pilot wounded in combat
>was discredited when the Department of Defense released documents
>demonstrating that, though Hubbard had been in the Air Force, he was
>neither a pilot nor an officer, had never served in Vietnam and had
>never been in combat. John Kerry shared the stage with Al Hubbard during
>the Dewey Canyon III protest in Washington, D.C., and he appeared
>together with Hubbard on NBC's Meet the Press on April 18, 1971. Hubbard
>also signed the People's Peace Treaty, a PCPJ document that reiterated
>the positions of North Vietnam and the Vietcong, on behalf of the VVAW.
>
>An FBI field surveillance report stamped November 11, 1971 reported that
>the FBI had learned at the Regional VVAW Convention in Norman Oklahoma,
>on November 5-7, 1971, that John Kerry and Al Hubbard were planning to
>travel to Paris later in the month to engage in talks with the
>Vietnamese communist peace delegations. While this document is heavily
>redacted, other FBI reports make it clear that the Communist Party of
>the USA was paying for Al Hubbard's trips to Paris.
>
>IT IS NOTED THAT THE "COMMUNIST PARTY" REFERRED IN RETEL IS PROBABLY THE
>COMMUNIST PARTY, USA, BECAUSE AL HUBBARD IS A MEMBER OF COORDINATING OF
>PEOPLES COALITION FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE (PCPJ), AS ARE GIL GREEN, MEMBER
>OF NATIONAL COMMITTEE, COMMUNIST PARTY, USA AND JARVIS TYNER, NATIONAL
>DIRECTOR, YOUNG WORKERS LIBERATION LEAGUE. HUBBARD, GREEN AND TYNER HAVE
>ATTENDED SAME NATIONAL MEETINGS OF PCPJ.
>
>-- Federal Bureau of Investigations, Field Surveillance Report, filed
>November 11, 1971. A copy of this report was air-mailed to the Boston
>FBI office in reference to John Kerry.
>
>An FBI field surveillance report dated November 24, 1971 details Al
>Hubbard's presentation to a VVAW meeting of the Executive and Steering
>committees in Kansas City, Missouri, during the weekend of November
>12-15, 1971 -- the same meeting at which the VVAW considered, then
>rejected a plan to assassinate several pro-war US Senators. John Kerry
>is listed as present. Once again, Al Hubbard made clear the communist
>coordination involved in his recent trip to Paris:
>
>[BLACK OUT] advised that Hubbard gave the following information
>regarding his Paris trip:
>
>Two foreign groups, which are Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) and
>Peoples Republic Government (PRG) (phonetic), invited representatives of
>the VVAW, Communist Party USA (CP USA), and a Left Wing group in Paris,
>to attend meeting of the above inviting groups in Paris. Hubbard advised
>he was elected to represent the VVAW. An unknown male was invited to
>represent the CP USA and an unknown individual was elected to represent
>the Left Wing group from Paris. He advised at the meeting that his trip
>was financed by CP USA.
>
>-- Federal Bureau of Investigations, Field Surveillance Report, filed
>November 24, 1971.
>
>A letter written by Al Hubbard on April 20, 1971 leaves no doubt about
>the strong coordination between the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and
>the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice. Addressed from the offices
>of the VVAW in Washington, D.C., the letter is an appeal to VVAW members
>to provide assistance to the PCPJ. It discusses several ways in which
>the two organizations have worked closely together:
>
>This is an appeal for help for the Peoples Coalition for Peace and
>Justice. Over the past months the Peoples Coalition has supported the
>Vietnam Vets Against the War in many ways. The Coalition has made office
>space available at no charge, and permitted the use of all necessary
>office equipment such as mimeograph machines, stencil-making machines,
>folders and typewriters. They have loaned us cars, bullhorns, and public
>address equipment. Their staff has taken messages for us and joined
>fraternally in building our progress. Now we can return this support.
>
>Saturday, April 24, the Coalition needs help collecting money and
>selling buttons at the great march and rally. Collectors and sellers
>must be energetic and determined. Theree will be security problems in
>taking large amounts of money to banks. The Coalition needs people
>power, hundreds of workers.
>I earnestly hope that you will come forward to support our friends in
>this emergency.
>
>-- Letter signed by Al Hubbard, addressed from the Vietnam Veterans
>Against the War office at Room 900, 1029 Vermont Ave. N.W., Washington,
>D.C., dated April 20, 1971. Found in the House Internal Security
>Committee subject files, Washington, D.C.
>
>Two days after the letter was written, John Kerry gave his famous
>testimony to Senator Fulbright's Foreign Relations Committee in which he
>likened the American military in Vietnam to the army of Ghengis Khan.
>The march and rally for which Hubbard was recruiting VVAW assistance was
>the PCPJ's massive April 24 demonstration in Washington, which
>immediately followed the VVAW's week-long Dewey Canyon III protest. The
>communist Daily world reported on April 27 that "Tributes were paid to
>the special role of the Vietnam Veterans" at the PCPJ rally, and went on
>to quote at length from John Kerry's speech at that event.
>
>Willing Partners: the VVAW and the Vietnamese Communists
>Other examples of the VVAW's advocacy of Vietnamese communist positions
>during the period of John Kerry's leadership abound. The group issued a
>proclamation in February 1971 calling for mass civil disobedience and
>military mutiny if American forces entered Laos. After the war, North
>Vietnamese military leaders acknowledged that one of their greatest
>fears was that America would move significant forces into Laos to
>interdict the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The VVAW's eagerness to comply with the
>wishes of the Vietnamese communists even extended to its choice of
>nomenclature. The VVAW's Executive Committee stated in a July 1971
>meeting that the terms "Vietcong" and "North Vietnamese" were not to be
>used in VVAW press releases and communications. Instead, "PRG
>(Provisional Revolutionary Government)" and "DRV (Democratic Republic of
>Vietnam)"... "are to be used by us to reflect our acceptance of their
>designations." And the VVAW's unremitting insistence that American
>forces were mass-murdering Vietnamese civilians perfectly echoed the
>primary propaganda theme put forth by the Vietnamese communists, their
>international communist allies, and their Soviet sponsors.
>Conclusion
>
>The newly uncovered documents help clarify the relationship of the North
>Vietnamese, the Vietcong, the PCPJ, the Communist Party of the USA, and
>John Kerry's VVAW. They indicate that these organizations worked closely
>together, using the Paris Peace Talks as a central point of
>communication, to employ the strategy and tactics devised by the
>Vietnamese communists to achieve their primary objective: the defeat of
>the United States of America in Vietnam.
>
>-- by Jerome R. Corsi and Scott Swett

[freema]

Pinging Tonk to be etiquettely correct.

No you didn't.

Tonk's conduct is shameful?!

You wrote in another post, "Of course, I can see Kelly's point, because Murtha's claim to fame is being a "war hero," and his whole Iraq shtick is based on the idea that he knows what he's talking about because he was the man in 'Nam."

You call Tonk shameless and stated Murtha's talk is shtick, yet you advocate silence until all the facts are in, knowing full well it's taken 30 years to reach NO 180 with Kerry. Of anyone on FR, Tonk has been the one to hold the Kerry banner high BECAUSE OF THE SILENCE 30 years ago, the damage it did to our troops, and the massacre in the Cambodian fields, and YOU call HIM shameless, unable to see the forest for the trees, state "there must be a 12 step group for that", tell HIM to get a grip, because HE disagrees with YOU?

When the potential about what can evolve in damage to our troops and the war effort if this behavior is silently and quietly ignored has been made abundantly clear by history and Tonk calls you on your choice to sit on both sides of the fence, insults are posted.

I guess I missed your definition of shameless.

[Peach]

It's happened to me too and it is not honorable conduct. I'm appalled. And disappointed.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

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[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Stolen Valor Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)
HR 3352 IH

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 3352

To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to protections for the Medal of Honor, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 19, 2005

Mr. SALAZAR introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to protections for the Medal of Honor, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Stolen Valor Act of 2005'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds that--

(1) fraudulent claims surrounding receipt of the Medal of Honor, the Distinguished-Service Cross, the Air Force Cross, the Navy Cross, the Purple Heart, or any other medal or decoration awarded by Congress or the armed forces damage the reputation and meaning of these medals;

(2) Federal law enforcement officers are currently limited in their ability to prosecute fraudulent claims of receipt of military medals; and

(3) changes to the current statute are necessary to allow law enforcement personnel to protect the reputation and meaning of these medals.

SEC. 3. MILITARY MEDAL PROTECTIONS.

Section 704 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) in subsection (a)--

(A) by inserting `purchases, attempts to purchase, solicits for purchase, mails, ships, imports, exports, produces blank certificates of receipt,' after `wears'; and

(B) by inserting `attempts to sell, advertises for sale, trades, barters or exchanges for anything of value' after `sells';

(2) in subsection (b)(1), by inserting `or (b)' after `subsection (a)'

(3) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c);

(4) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:

`(b) False Claims About Receipt of Military Medals- Whoever falsely represents himself or herself, verbally or in writing, to have been awarded any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.'; and

(5) by adding at the end the following:

`(d) Other Medals- If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) or (b) is a Distinguished Service Cross awarded under Section 3742 of title 10, an Air Force Cross awarded under section 8742 of section 10, a Navy cross awarded under section 6242 of title 10, a silver star awarded under section 3746, 6244, or 8746 of title 10, or a Purple Heart awarded under section 1129 of title 10, or any replacement or duplicate medal as authorized by statute, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.'.

1 posted on 01/18/2006 8:24:40 PM PST by Calpernia

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`(b) False Claims About Receipt of Military Medals- Whoever falsely represents himself or herself, verbally or in writing, to have been awarded any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.'; and

(5) by adding at the end the following:

`(d) Other Medals- If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) or (b) is a Distinguished Service Cross awarded under Section 3742 of title 10, an Air Force Cross awarded under section 8742 of section 10, a Navy cross awarded under section 6242 of title 10, a silver star awarded under section 3746, 6244, or 8746 of title 10, or a Purple Heart awarded under section 1129 of title 10, or any replacement or duplicate medal as authorized by statute, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

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THIS is something that hanoi kerry can't get out of!

The Swift Boat Vets, proved, without any doubt,
to any logical, reasoning person,
that hanoi kerry's 1st Purple Heart is a fraud.

Now that Republicans AND Democrats are behind this bill
and since the GOP has control of both houses in Congress
hanoi kerry has finally been caught.

"the offender shall be fined under this title,
imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both."

Their is nothing about IF the fraud was committed before this bill.

IF hanoi kerry does not renounce his 1st Purple Heart
(and his 2nd and 3rd)
he's guilty of fraud and gets to go to jail.

37 posted on 01/18/2006 8:57:58 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)

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