Let me deal with this issue and then get to the larger point:
You need to cite YOUR source that says the US Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction over U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3 (1868)
OK...I'll type it so you can read it this time...
Amendment 14 Sec 5 gives CONGRESS the power to enforce Sections 1 through 4.
Got it? Now, if you have a Constitutional provision that gives the SCOTUS the right to remove Senators, serve it up. It wouldn't change my mind completely on the wisdom of your tactics, but it might change my tactical mindset some.
Now, let me tell you a true story about I guy I interviewed once.
His name is Michael Franzese. He once was one of the youngest and most successful mob bosses ever, a capo in the Colombo family in NYC. Just one of his schemes that evaded the gas tax at gas stations in his territory was bringing in $5 million per week, which was about half as much as the Teflon Don John Gotti made each year at the top of his game. A massive task force with officers from 14 agencies was formed just to get him--not the Colombo family, just him. He was indicted for racketeering three times, and tried five times, once with Rudy Giuliani leading the prosecution team personally.
But they didn't get him. He eventually went to prison, but that was because he had become a Christian and decided that he should plead guilty and pay for his crimes.
Why didn't they get him when he was a known rising star in the Mafia? Tom Brokaw said right on TV that this guy was a mobster and they couldn't get a jury to send him to jail? One thing he told me was that many organized crime prosecutions fail because prosecutors know beyond doubt that the mobsters are guilty of something (after all, they're mobsters), and this tends to color their perception of the evidence and how the jury will see the evidence. He said, They know who you are, and youre a target. So they go to trial with evidence that's not sufficient for the jury. He believes that's why Gotti (who was dumb as a post) was acquitted the first two times.
Now, imagine you're one of Rudy Giuliani's team. Imagine you've worked for years on getting Franzese. And imagine you said to him, "Boss, we know Franzese is guilty, but the jury is not going to give us a conviction. Something has to change before we bring this to trial. We need to do more work, but we can do it. If we go now and don't get a conviction, it will hurt our operations immeasurably."
Rudy turns to you and yells, "You're working for the Mafia, aren't you? You don't care at all about the people this man has hurt. You don't have your priorities straight! You haven't done any work for this team at all! And if any person who's been victimized by the Mafia heard you, they would know you care more about the comfort and success of the Mafia than you do about justice!"
Now, wouldn't you think Rudy was out of line? Maybe looking too closely at the bark of the tree to see the forest?
Well, that's what's going on with you. And the way I know it is not because your plan is unworkable, but because when anyone challenges you to show how it would work, you accuse them of dishonoring the troops, of being insufficiently loyal to the Republic, and (now in my case) even of not doing enough for the election of the President. It is like the tunnel vision that affects some shooters...they become so drilled in on the target and the sight picture that they lose their situational awareness and end up shooting friendlies.
I don't spend time on FR crowing about my work, but I'm going to say this here so that the next time you decide somebody hasn't been following the Gospel According to Tonk closely enough, you will think twice, and maybe avoid shooting into our own ranks.
I served my nation. I will not speak of the difficulties I endured, because they would be small next to those endured by many others who I lend my support to now.
I organized a weekly troop support demonstration that is still going after almost three years.
I have frozen and baked my can out there every week. I also made time to counter every appearance of appeaseniks in my area and alert Freepers all over the country to appeasnik activity they can counter. I hoped make sure there were Freepers waiting for Hanoi Kerry at every campaign stop, and I did my best.
I have done pro bono writing work for troop support organizations. I bill my writing at several tens of dollars per hour, but I did this for free because it was for the troops. I have gotten writer's cramp writing letters to troops I don't even know.
On the political side, I have lent my support to this president ever since before it was down to him and McCain, supporting him and the troops with my writing, my time, my presence.
And yet, you question my commitment to the cause, all because I disagree on a tactical approach. Because I tell you we need to do more work before we can get this guy.
Your conduct is shameful. You're a better man than this. Take your eyes off that bark a minute and get a grip.
"Your conduct is shameful. You're a better man than this. Take your eyes off that bark a minute and get a grip."
Guess you don't like that I don't
and never will contribute one dime to the GOP.
You are the one who can't admit that if was not for
men like John O'Neill and Zell Miller that you
would be saying president hanoi kerry
At least Karl Rove and many, many others now the real
truth about the '04 election.
Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts
Kerry Positioning himself for 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180361,00.html
Jerome R. Corsi and Scott Swett
Read about it in John Kerry and the VVAW: Hanoi's American Puppets?
by Dr. Jerome Corsi (FReeper jrlc)
and Scott Swett (FReeper Interesting Times)
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php
Pinging Tonk to be etiquettely correct.
No you didn't.
Tonk's conduct is shameful?!
You wrote in another post, "Of course, I can see Kelly's point, because Murtha's claim to fame is being a "war hero," and his whole Iraq shtick is based on the idea that he knows what he's talking about because he was the man in 'Nam."
You call Tonk shameless and stated Murtha's talk is shtick, yet you advocate silence until all the facts are in, knowing full well it's taken 30 years to reach NO 180 with Kerry. Of anyone on FR, Tonk has been the one to hold the Kerry banner high BECAUSE OF THE SILENCE 30 years ago, the damage it did to our troops, and the massacre in the Cambodian fields, and YOU call HIM shameless, unable to see the forest for the trees, state "there must be a 12 step group for that", tell HIM to get a grip, because HE disagrees with YOU?
When the potential about what can evolve in damage to our troops and the war effort if this behavior is silently and quietly ignored has been made abundantly clear by history and Tonk calls you on your choice to sit on both sides of the fence, insults are posted.
I guess I missed your definition of shameless.
It's happened to me too and it is not honorable conduct. I'm appalled. And disappointed.
Stolen Valor Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)
HR 3352 IH
109th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 3352
To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to protections for the Medal of Honor, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
July 19, 2005
Mr. SALAZAR introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILL
To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to protections for the Medal of Honor, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Stolen Valor Act of 2005'.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
Congress finds that--
(1) fraudulent claims surrounding receipt of the Medal of Honor, the Distinguished-Service Cross, the Air Force Cross, the Navy Cross, the Purple Heart, or any other medal or decoration awarded by Congress or the armed forces damage the reputation and meaning of these medals;
(2) Federal law enforcement officers are currently limited in their ability to prosecute fraudulent claims of receipt of military medals; and
(3) changes to the current statute are necessary to allow law enforcement personnel to protect the reputation and meaning of these medals.
SEC. 3. MILITARY MEDAL PROTECTIONS.
Section 704 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)--
(A) by inserting `purchases, attempts to purchase, solicits for purchase, mails, ships, imports, exports, produces blank certificates of receipt,' after `wears'; and
(B) by inserting `attempts to sell, advertises for sale, trades, barters or exchanges for anything of value' after `sells';
(2) in subsection (b)(1), by inserting `or (b)' after `subsection (a)'
(3) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c);
(4) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:
`(b) False Claims About Receipt of Military Medals- Whoever falsely represents himself or herself, verbally or in writing, to have been awarded any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.'; and
(5) by adding at the end the following:
`(d) Other Medals- If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) or (b) is a Distinguished Service Cross awarded under Section 3742 of title 10, an Air Force Cross awarded under section 8742 of section 10, a Navy cross awarded under section 6242 of title 10, a silver star awarded under section 3746, 6244, or 8746 of title 10, or a Purple Heart awarded under section 1129 of title 10, or any replacement or duplicate medal as authorized by statute, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.'.
1 posted on 01/18/2006 8:24:40 PM PST by Calpernia
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1560750/posts
`(b) False Claims About Receipt of Military Medals- Whoever falsely represents himself or herself, verbally or in writing, to have been awarded any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.'; and
(5) by adding at the end the following:
`(d) Other Medals- If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) or (b) is a Distinguished Service Cross awarded under Section 3742 of title 10, an Air Force Cross awarded under section 8742 of section 10, a Navy cross awarded under section 6242 of title 10, a silver star awarded under section 3746, 6244, or 8746 of title 10, or a Purple Heart awarded under section 1129 of title 10, or any replacement or duplicate medal as authorized by statute, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.