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BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR YOU JUST MAY GET IT (more debunking of the FDR myth)
gold eagle ^ | 12 January 2006 | Aubie Baltin

Posted on 01/13/2006 5:02:13 AM PST by hubbubhubbub

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1 posted on 01/13/2006 5:02:15 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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bump


2 posted on 01/13/2006 5:05:20 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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BINGO!


3 posted on 01/13/2006 5:05:30 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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FDR delayed recovery of the depression. It was the war that saved him.


4 posted on 01/13/2006 5:05:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (Gael Murphy is a bug)
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The question is - Did FDR manipulate events to get us into the war to save his crippled ass?


5 posted on 01/13/2006 5:15:16 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: hubbubhubbub

PING


6 posted on 01/13/2006 5:16:15 AM PST by Bellflower
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To: bmwcyle

The one thing I did not like about the latest version of the film SEABISCUIT is that it was interspersed with narration supporting the New Deal myth. The film brings it to almost religious terms.


7 posted on 01/13/2006 5:16:29 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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To: hubbubhubbub

As leftists show their true colors more and more, and good people see something they really don't like, we gain ground. We must bust leftist falsehoods without hesitation or apology when ears are ready to hear. That's now.


8 posted on 01/13/2006 5:21:29 AM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: bmwcyle
BUMP!

I fear for my children and my grnadchildren.
The only bright spot is that they are voting for their own misery; so it must be OK.

What are the three most important factors in real estate?
Location, location and location.

What are the three most important factors in economic health?
Education, education and education.

This is a good start. The should be a similar analysis on the "war on poverty"; and also on the multi-trillion$ "feel good" national laws, the "endangered" species boondogle, the EPA, the ADA and the hysterical war on nuclear energy and other energy-limiting fiascos.

9 posted on 01/13/2006 5:29:56 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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Michael Medved had a show on lies we are being told about WWII and in it he revealed some interesting stuff on FDR that goes beyond this story. Did you know when Neville Chamberlain gave his infamous appeasement "Peace in our Time" speech FDR's reaction was saying, "Good Man"?
10 posted on 01/13/2006 5:32:51 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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" ... save he crippled ass?" ... No. But Stalin's ass - yes.


11 posted on 01/13/2006 5:55:53 AM PST by jamaksin
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No Democrat or Liberal will ever bother to accept or even read factual history like this. It doesn't 'feel good'.


12 posted on 01/13/2006 5:55:59 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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Socialism works only in the minds of socialists. We can see the failings of socialism today in Venezuala, as the citizens find grocery shelves empty of coffee thanks to socialist decrees crushing the free market.


13 posted on 01/13/2006 5:56:57 AM PST by sergeantdave (Environmentalism is a neo-fascist pagan cult that worships nature)
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World War II got us out of the Depression. Since FDR did all he could to get us into WWII, he got us out of the Depression.


14 posted on 01/13/2006 6:00:05 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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If you raise the price of labor (e.g. via minimum wage laws) then demand for labor will be reduced all other things being equal. If raise the price of labor by taxing it (e.g. social security [FICA]) then demand for labor will be reduced. If you raise the price of labor through legislation promoting unionization (and their attendant higher labor costs) then demand for labor will be reduced. Start to see a pattern here? If you see the government ignoring economics 101 (and downward sloping demand curves and upward sloping supply curves existed in the 1930s) it leads you to conclude that the government was either a) grossly incompetent or b) WANTED HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT. Unemployment at Depression levels gave the government power over Americans. It made them dependent on big government. And the government was FDR and the Democrats.


15 posted on 01/13/2006 6:15:35 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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ok...........I have read about the coming recession (depression) with great interest........my question is, will it take a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread, or will there be no money? which kind of recession will we have. I need to get ready.........


16 posted on 01/13/2006 6:18:52 AM PST by joe fonebone (Time to get the old hippies out of government)
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Good points made on Hoover's disastrous responses to the depression from 1929 to '33. If handled better, Hoover could have had a turnaround by late '32 (and a second term for himself).


17 posted on 01/13/2006 6:26:27 AM PST by MajorityOfOne
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This is a wonderful article and should be read by everybody. It points out what has been generally hidden that Franklin D. Roosevelt, a wealthy Wall Street financier was a closet socialist.

Actually he was a poor war leader. Churchill had to fight every inch of the way to get Roosevelt to make any positive moves at all. Finally, the article points out what every liberal denies to this day; that Roosevelt was as economically ignorant as a fence post.
18 posted on 01/13/2006 6:36:59 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Monterrosa-24
yah, that was bogus. I do think there is some truth to the argument that the programs made people, especially unemployed men, "feel better" about themselves (i.e., taking a handout through a "job" that isn't needed was probably viewed as preferable to welfare), but overall the New Deal was not just a disaster then, it has plagued us ever since with long-term bad policies.

See the chart in my book, "A Patriot's History of the United States" where Mike Allen and I look at the 50-year impact of New Deal programs.

19 posted on 01/13/2006 7:12:14 AM PST by LS
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The government is much better at printing money than at taking money out of circulation. That's my $.02 worth.


20 posted on 01/13/2006 7:12:23 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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