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To: HairOfTheDog
here's the thing about the mail order bride phenomenon in a nutshell. Bitter loveless men seeking a vagina that can vacuum

Besides being untrue that statement is remarkably crass.

Every time we meet on one of these threads I come away with the impression that you don't understand what motivates men at all.

One thing that the foreign brides have going for them is respect. Their cultures still teach that the wife is to respect the husband. Now it may not sound like much but to a man respect is everything. Just as a woman needs to be loved and seen as attractive in her husband's eyes a man NEEDS to be respected by his wife.

This respect shows up in lots of ways. Everything from honoring his decisions to fixing his dinner (of course some households will differ as to who cooks etc) Basically doing things for him to show she loves him.

With few exceptions if a woman treats her man like a king he will treat her better than a queen. I've seen men go to huge lengths to spoil a woman who treats them right. I've done it for my wife. She was severly spoiled (her parents think I spoiled her too much) but she was worth it. She respected me.

The second outcome of a woman respecting her man is that he will work harder to be worthy of that respect. It's a automatic subconscious thing.

Fortunately there are still Christian women in this country who have been raised to respect their husbands. Otherwise I'd go foreign too. Most big city American women (and all liberal women) have bought the feminist line and thus have become unmarriable.

416 posted on 01/11/2006 10:00:35 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

"One thing that the foreign brides have going for them is respect. Their cultures still teach that the wife is to respect the husband. Now it may not sound like much but to a man respect is everything. Just as a woman needs to be loved and seen as attractive in her husband's eyes a man NEEDS to be respected by his wife."

Guess what? Women need respect, too. You might recall Aretha Franklin singing a song about it. So would you rather have automatic respect because a woman has it instilled in her by her culture that men are superior (and can set you on fire if you anger them), or have respect from your wife because you've earned it, and she has yours because she has earned it? I know how my marriage works, at any rate. :)


420 posted on 01/11/2006 10:08:48 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: John O
Just as a woman needs to be loved and seen as attractive in her husband's eyes a man NEEDS to be respected by his wife.

John O, I may not agree with everything you said on this thread, but this is a truth that deserves an AMEN.

If my wife shows me that she admires me (remember that Nancy Reagan "look" at Ronnie?), it's better than sex. Well, a little...

421 posted on 01/11/2006 10:15:54 AM PST by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: John O
Besides being untrue that statement is remarkably crass.

It was, and I'm sorry you had to see it. But the man's attitude toward women was crass also and I didn't see any of the God-fearing men of high moral character taking him to task for using women for sex and throwing them out. Not even those with daughters. I lost my temper.

Respect isn't a foreign only concept. My husband treats me with respect and I treat him with respect. I respect all my friends. I treat waiters and store clerks and my father with respect. I don't respect those who are rude and don't deserve it, or it means nothing :~D

You intermingle the meaning of respect in marriage with a service aspect that I see as just being nice and giving of yourself because you love someone.

Oh well, John... I know a lot of what has gotten you grief on this forum is semantics. You talk in a way that seems to reduce women to functions they provide for you. Perhaps it is just the coldness of text. You probably aren't my kinda guy, but you're probably an OK guy in your own life. I do hope you find love and companionship for yourself and your daughter.

422 posted on 01/11/2006 10:17:38 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: John O

John, feminists aren't interested in what you want or need. They're more interested in telling you what you want or need.


466 posted on 01/11/2006 12:21:38 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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