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1 posted on 01/07/2006 10:26:58 PM PST by LibWhacker
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John Deighan, a spokesman for the Catholic Church, took issue with Dawkin's denunciation of religion, telling the Glasgow Sunday Herald, "Dawkins is well known for his vitriolic attacks on faith, and I think faith has withstood his attacks. He really is going beyond his abilities as a scientist when he starts to venture into the field of philosophy and theology. He is the guy with demonstrable problems."

An excellent response by the spokesman for the Catholic Church. Dawkins is using the prestige of science to bolster his attacks the religion. But Dawkins is not talking as a scientist when he takes on religious questions.

43 posted on 01/08/2006 5:25:47 AM PST by Logophile
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rational debate on this issue is difficult when "wacko radicals" grab the headlines...


45 posted on 01/08/2006 5:54:44 AM PST by thejokker
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The atheist High Priest of Darwinism, emboldened by the Dover decision, issues to the world his homily on child-rearing.

We should all feel so blessed amd enlightened now, especially those of us who are actually doing the hard work of rearing children in a society dominated by cultural atheism.

49 posted on 01/08/2006 8:39:09 AM PST by JCEccles
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What about all the mass murders committed by atheists? The French Revolution, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Holocaust.

There is not even evidence, other than the bible, that the ancient Israelites committed any massacres of Canaanites or Midianites or Moabites. If the bible is just a bunch of made up myths, it never even happened.


50 posted on 01/08/2006 8:39:12 AM PST by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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an interview with Yousef al-Khattab, an American-born Jew turned fundamentalist Muslim, who clashes with Dawkins after saying he hates atheists.

In the UK, a country brimming with Muslims from Arab and Asian countries, the only Muslim the producers could come up with was a fruitcake American converted Jew?

53 posted on 01/08/2006 11:57:37 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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"As our mother earth is a mere speck in the sunbeam in the illimitable universe, so man himself is but a tiny grain of protoplasm in the perishable framework of organic nature. [This] clearly indicates the true place of man in nature, but it dissipates the prevalent illusion of man's supreme importance and the arrogance with which he sets himself apart from the illimitable universe and exalts himself to the position of its most valuable element." -- Ernst Haeckel, Disciple of Charles Darwin and Father of German Ecology

Source: Ernst Haeckel, The Riddle of the Universe (New York: Harper, 1900), pp. 14-15.

"Man is not above nature, but in nature." -- Ernst Haeckel, Disciple of Charles Darwin and Father of German Ecology

Source: Ernst Haeckel, The Evolution of Man. 2 vols. (New York: Appleton, 1903), vol. II, p. 456.

"Man must not fall into the error of thinking that he was ever meant to become lord and master of Nature. A lopsided education has helped to encourage that illusion. Man must realize that a fundamental law of necessity reigns throughout the whole realm of Nature and that his existence is subject to the law of eternal struggle and strife. He will then feel that there cannot be a separate law for mankind in a world in which planets and suns follow their orbits, where moons and planets trace their destined paths, where the strong are always the masters of the weak and where those subject to such laws must obey them or be destroyed. Man must also submit to the eternal principles of this supreme wisdom. He may try to understand them but he can never free himself from their sway." -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

57 posted on 01/08/2006 2:43:20 PM PST by JCEccles
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Dawkins targets Catholicism at the pilgrimage site in Lourdes. "If you want to experience the medieval rituals of faith, the candle light, the incense, music, important-sounding dead languages, nobody does it better than the Catholics," he says.

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59 posted on 01/08/2006 2:44:49 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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"The God of the Old Testament has got to be the most unpleasant character
in all fiction: jealous, and proud of it, petty, vindictive,
unjust, unforgiving, racist," he says. Dawkins then criticizes
Abraham, compares Moses to Hitler and Saddam Hussein, and calls
the New Testament "St Paul's nasty, sado-masochistic doctrine
of atonement for original sin."


I used to think this way a bit when I was younger...
but I didn't quite have Dawkins' evangelical zeal.

But as I slaved my way through a graduate degree in biochemistry,
I learned a lot about "selective reading".

Sounds like Dawkins, for all his brilliance, has forgotten that
absolutely necessary aspect of making investigations and observations.

But then he sounds like he's pretty stressed, given some of his
statements, so maybe he just forgot about how "selective reading"
will only lead you to "the truth" if you are just very darned lucky.
62 posted on 01/08/2006 2:53:00 PM PST by VOA
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Ah yes, the Patron Saint of the High Church of Secularism opens his mouth and spews unrefined human waste. And this guy holds the Charles Simonyi Chair in the Public Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford.

Science could have no better representative (end sarcasm ).

68 posted on 01/08/2006 4:19:11 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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Richard Dawkins does for science what Fred Phelps does for the pro-family movement.


78 posted on 01/08/2006 6:18:03 PM PST by Varda
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And I am sure the BBC has banned him as a Christophobic hate-ist (given his anti-Christian hate-speech)?


83 posted on 01/08/2006 11:49:08 PM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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Dawkins sounds demented.


86 posted on 01/09/2006 5:33:22 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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88 posted on 01/09/2006 5:48:57 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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Wonder if Channel 4 (is it BBC?) would be willing to air a Billy Graham crusade?


99 posted on 01/09/2006 6:51:10 AM PST by Tribune7
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Scientist compares Moses to Hitler, calls New Testament 'sado-masochistic doctrine'

I believe in evolution, but this a-hole makes me wanna puke.

On him.

110 posted on 01/09/2006 7:23:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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Science is hard. Blasting religion is easy.


113 posted on 01/09/2006 7:26:48 AM PST by aculeus
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Dawkins discovers hypebole can be leveraged to make money, film at 11.


117 posted on 01/09/2006 7:29:13 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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I'll take my chances believing the words of a much Higher Authority than Richard Dawkins.

After all, if I'm right, Dawkins and I will have our places before the same Judge one day, and I'd much prefer His favor than Dawkins'.


129 posted on 01/09/2006 8:19:38 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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Lets hope taking reason where it leads does not lead to the world Dawkins envisions, where criminals are treated as malfunctioning computers in need of repair and not punishment.

http://www.edge.org/q2006/q06_9.html

JM
131 posted on 01/09/2006 8:23:36 AM PST by JohnnyM
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Now this would be one fine example of a very hard heart.


146 posted on 01/09/2006 9:09:47 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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