[beaver fever]

"Non-sequitur. It has no bearing on what we were discussing, ie the oversensitivity of women in the workplace and their inability to accept the fact that men are men and that we don't want to change."

What I said was not a Non Seqitur. You might want to look it up since you don't know what a fallacy is. I suggest Aristotle's 'Sophici Elencis'.

The topic of the thread is old boy exclusionism and my remarks relate directly to that.

Also I was talking about the conduct of male articling students cutting their female colleagues out of the loop.

I've seen it myself and careerist frat boys are a bunch of pri**s who make their way through life because of a secret handshake.

Your sweetheart comment was insulting. Only Humphrey Bogart could pull that off. An you are definitely not as suave as Bogey.

[ccmay]

I've seen it myself and careerist frat boys are a bunch of pri**s who make their way through life because of a secret handshake.

I was a frat boy, now a partner in my firm, and only once in my career have I run into one of my old brothers-- and he was in no position to help me, handshake or no. I am not even aware that any of my other partners was a member of ANY fraternity.

You are calling these guys careerist frat boy p**cks but they sound like normal heterosexual men to me.

I don't care much for titty bars but I certainly know a lot of guys who do. If companies decide to get rid of any employee who visits their local "ballet academy", they are going to find that they have cut themselves off from a great many talented and aggressive workers.

-ccm

[Galveston Grl]

American men have been told for decades now that they are sexually uncontrolable, abusive and ignoble by feminists. All the attributes of men in relationship to women(love, strength, romance, honor, proectiveness, etc.) were named sexist and cleansed from the socailization of men.

In the male rebellion against feminism what do we see men trying to prove here about being male? Strip clubs and lap dances; porn addiction - the sexual exploitation of women. Men want to reclaim their masculinity that was cleansed by the feme-nazis and all many men know that prepresents male is porn or the sexual exploitation of women.

Oh well...whatever. Sexual disease will take care of it.