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Bush to Give Away Abramoff Donations
yahoo news ^ | 1-4-05

Posted on 01/04/2006 7:05:21 AM PST by LouAvul

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1 posted on 01/04/2006 7:05:22 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

Does Bush hear something creeping up on him????


2 posted on 01/04/2006 7:07:08 AM PST by cynicom
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To: LouAvul
Fair is fair. Did the DSCC ever return Jack Grubman's six figure bribe....er, donation?
3 posted on 01/04/2006 7:09:13 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: LouAvul

Nancy Pelosi makes me ill. I can't stand to watch her. I really wish someone would find something on her - and soon!


4 posted on 01/04/2006 7:11:48 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: LouAvul

Does simply 'donating' away the bribe money from a scumbag make it all OK? I don't care who it is Republican, Dim, or 'Independent', if you take a bribe, you go down. Now, proving that it was a bribe....that's another story.


5 posted on 01/04/2006 7:11:53 AM PST by BritExPatInFla
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To: LouAvul
Could somebody explain the difference in Abramoff and Soros?

How is it that the Clintons reportedly solicited and received bales of "red" Chinese dollars and nary an investigation?

Is there not a precedence of "no controlling legal authority?

Did not McCainFeingold wall off all that dirty evil corrupt money???

Anyone seen that Barrett report we taxpayers paid for??

What happened to Able Danger investigation????

So many questions and alll I hear is Abramoff and Republicans.
6 posted on 01/04/2006 7:12:09 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cynicom

I'm afraid this Abramoff thing is just starting. The Dems are going to exploit this to the hilt, I'm sure, in this election year.

The question is: How can the GOP effectively counter the bad publicity that's going to be generated? I'm afraid a few folks are going to have to fall on their swords and withdraw.


7 posted on 01/04/2006 7:13:42 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Just mythoughts

There is no difference, and that's what's going to bite the Dems on the behind. DC's in need of a good cleansing, though, so here's to open season on both parties.


8 posted on 01/04/2006 7:14:38 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Just mythoughts
Could somebody explain the difference in Abramoff and Soros?


There is little difference in their actions. Why was there no investigation during the previous administration? who knows?

It is important to remember, "Two wrongs, don't make a right."


Bribery is bribery.
9 posted on 01/04/2006 7:16:06 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: BritExPatInFla

"Does simply 'donating' away the bribe money from a scumbag make it all OK?"


Sure. It does if there is no way the person receiving the money could have known that it was donated in exchange for some positive action on some matter.

This is going to lead to a close look at the dates of the donations and any votes or other actions favorable to the donor.

If you have a donation, followed by a vote in favor of whatever the donor was advocating, then it's likely to cause a real problem for the person accepting the donation.

This story is going to have long, long legs in this election year.


10 posted on 01/04/2006 7:16:47 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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The key to this thing is, Abramoff agreeing to ten years. That spells trouble for many people, pubs and dems.

To my thinking, they are angling for bigger fish.

11 posted on 01/04/2006 7:17:35 AM PST by cynicom
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Let the scumbags fall where they may. There will be Democrats in the bunch. Just watch.


12 posted on 01/04/2006 7:19:16 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Just mythoughts
Could somebody explain the difference in Abramoff and Soros?

Soros implicates mostly Dems. Therefore the MSM doesn't cover it.

13 posted on 01/04/2006 7:19:49 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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"To my thinking, they are angling for bigger fish."

No doubt. We'll be hearing more about this in the months to come, probably culminating in some indictments and other ugly things close to the election in November.

It's not going to be pretty, and it may be that some fairly large names take a major hit over this stuff.

For me, it's just another indication of the corruption of the entire lobbying process. I've never liked the influence that lobbyists have on Capitol Hill. Perhaps this will all lead to some rule changes. I hope so.


14 posted on 01/04/2006 7:20:18 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: WhiteGuy
I think you read equivocation where absolutely none was written or intended.

The "law" is the law and who is bribing whom if only some are accountable under said law?
15 posted on 01/04/2006 7:20:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: VictoryGal

"Let the scumbags fall where they may. There will be Democrats in the bunch. Just watch."

There will be a few, I'm sure. However, Abramoff's history would seem to indicate that he targeted GOP lawmakers more often than Democrats. We'll see.


16 posted on 01/04/2006 7:21:44 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: cynicom
Maybe the *bigger fish* is on this list...
17 posted on 01/04/2006 7:22:04 AM PST by mystery-ak (End Freepathons, become a monthly donor...)
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The TRUTH about Abramof is that members of both parties took his donations (see for example Dorgan, Byron). This is really going to be a battle of the dinosaur media vs. the new media. The Dino media is already reporting this as being solely a Republican problem. We all know that is completely and totally FALSE. The question is, will Ms. Plastic Face be able to get away with it? Regardless of the questions she is asked, she just spouts the "Culture of Corruption" talking point. The Republicans had better have the "Culture of Hypocrisy" talking point ready to scream from the rooftops.


18 posted on 01/04/2006 7:22:59 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: LouAvul
I'd sure like to know what the difference is between "bribe" and "donation", which all politicians accept and all lobbyists give... to both parties at the same time.

A whole lot of donating went on. But which "donations" were actually an illegal bribe?

19 posted on 01/04/2006 7:23:41 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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They will try to claim that anyone who received a dollar from this joker is tainted, but if they had no knowledge or malice aforethought, how can they be tainted?

I expect this story will disappear from the headlines when it becomes clear how many democrats are up to their hips in it.


20 posted on 01/04/2006 7:24:32 AM PST by ichabod1 (Sic Omnia Gloria Fugit)
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