To: porkchops 4 mahound
Here, I'll type real slow.
Whether or not the dead have rights, and I would argue that they do, is not dispositive of the Constitutional issue.
Your incessant, petulant repetition of a question which is not dispositive of the issue demonstrates your inability to reason above an elementary, emotional level. Dismissed.
To: Conservative Goddess
I understand your need to resort to ad hominem attacks, your specious argument that "individual rights" should ALWAYS be our absolute primary concern, even in the face of life or death REALITY, lacks any sort of substance. You have nothing else in the face of historical FACT.
Once more, in the real world, (REALITY), insisting on individual "rights" before any other consideration, can be absurd to suicidal.
Now if this was just you as an individual, that would be fine,(if it was your own freely informed decision), however we are talking about the entire nation.
If you have the "right of way" and you pull out in front of a runaway truck, how does that profit you? You did have the "right of way" after all, Would that make an acceptable, (to you), epitaph? Of course not.
You seem incapable of understanding, (or even admitting), the simple principle, that if the United States of America is destroyed, as a nation, and a culture, that Americans, (not mention the rest of the world's peoples), will have no effective advocate of their "natural rights". Do you think the UN, or the Europeans, will protect, or defend, traditional American individual rights?
Of course not, the premise is absurd at best, and dangerous to the nation at worst.
Your ignorance of America's history is most interesting. Name one WAR, America has fought in it's lifetime so far, where the "individual rights" of our citizens have not taken a back seat to the life and death concerns of the Realpolitik of WAR?
Calling me names does not change the facts.
The Constitution of these United States is NOT a suicide pact, except to children, and fools, and our enemies.
I find it interesting that in your world, the DEAD have any RIGHTS. This shows how intellectually dishonest your position is.
I know you find this offensive, I feel your pain.
Now demonstrate, once more, the substance, and maturity, of your argument.
111 posted on
01/07/2006 1:37:56 PM PST by
porkchops 4 mahound
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