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Revote today [Dover, PA school board]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 January 2006 | TOM JOYCE

Posted on 01/03/2006 12:12:37 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Coyoteman
Your placemarker is ugly!
881 posted on 01/05/2006 6:17:15 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl

I would like to invite you to the Oswald Chambers "devotional" thread..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1552165/posts <<- CLICK


882 posted on 01/05/2006 6:24:05 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: YHAOS
Interesting an illuminating metaphor.. very good..
I liked it..
883 posted on 01/05/2006 6:26:50 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
[ And the claim that God is always and forever outside of science cannot be tested, so such a claim can never be science, or scientific. You dig? ]

LoL..

884 posted on 01/05/2006 6:29:32 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: BMCDA
It's scientifically empty since it's trivially true . . .

Gravity is like that, too. It never goes away. It's always been around. It'll probably never change. It could be used to explain anything. I mean, no gravity, no evolution! Maybe it shouldn't be in a science classroom either.

885 posted on 01/05/2006 6:48:07 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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Retardation placemarker
886 posted on 01/05/2006 6:51:12 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[ Science is NOT (1)agnostic not (2)theistic or (3)atheistic. (implyied)]

Science is 1,2,3 as much as the scientist is..
Science is composed of scientists.. basically semantically adept technology laywers.. Sophomores on crack, usually.. If "spinning" of news is possible, and it is, "spinning" of facts is too.., and are..

Example: Academe has not discovered that socialism is slavery by giverment.. or they have but have "spun" the facts to match their particular worldviews.. I'm Not talking about some parts of the academy but ALL parts of it, even mathematics.. You have you're rare scientist, thats open, but thats not the rule.. Drugs are controlled by the FDA whom is/are in bed with the Pharm industry..

When people believe nothing then they will fall for anything.. like, scientists are NOT SINNERS... propagandizing for their own beneifit.. Science is or has become about MONEY.. "Pure" science requires a "pure" scientist.. ALL or most validity checks have been bought off..

887 posted on 01/05/2006 6:55:14 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
"Interesting an illuminating metaphor"

Thanks. Also you might want to relate it to an earlier sidebar some of you had going on "The Giver".

888 posted on 01/05/2006 6:59:50 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS
[ Thanks. Also you might want to relate it to an earlier sidebar some of you had going on "The Giver". ]

Been there done that.. {relating}

889 posted on 01/05/2006 7:04:45 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
If science is not competent to make statements regarding God, then how can it with competence state that God is outside of its purview?

We can definitively state that God is outside the purview of science because that's what we define science to mean. Similarly, we define the trade of "plumbing" or "carpentry" in such a way that God is outside the purview of plumbers qua plumbers. Why don't you go yell at some plumbers for not investigating God as the source of clogs and leaks for a change?

890 posted on 01/05/2006 7:05:20 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Gumlegs
Once upon a time (1/t) pretty little Polly Nomial ...

Not to mention that smooth operator, Curly Pi.

891 posted on 01/05/2006 7:09:13 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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God clogs no man's pipes placemarker
892 posted on 01/05/2006 7:11:28 PM PST by Quark2005 (Divination is NOT science.)
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To: Quark2005

Indoor plumbing promotes atheism.


893 posted on 01/05/2006 7:13:46 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Quark2005

Why did the Designer run the main sewer through a recreational area? Perhaps a fan of Jean Valjean?


894 posted on 01/05/2006 7:26:36 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
We can definitively state that God is outside the purview of science because that's what we define science to mean.

Well sure. But who is anyone to know whether we have the competence or objective basis to define science as exclusive of God when science has no competence in the matter to begin with? And for God's sake don't bring my plumber into this. We're dealing with the fundamental assumptions inherent in anyone who undertakes to understand objective reality. This whole issue is not nearly as intrusive to general scientific pursuits as either side cracks it up to be.

895 posted on 01/05/2006 7:32:32 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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FundamentalistPlumbing placemark
896 posted on 01/05/2006 7:36:26 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Old joke, but a good one. But if you really don't like the way you were designed where sex is concerned then stay away from it altogether. If it's too "gross" for your liking then pleasure yourself with a hole in the wall. Or make yourself a Eunuch.


897 posted on 01/05/2006 7:38:42 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
But who is anyone to know whether we have the competence or objective basis to define science as exclusive of God when science has no competence in the matter to begin with?

Scientists aren't competent to define "science"? Are you sure this is the argument you want to make?

Of course not - what you want to do is conflate the act of defining "science" with somehow defining "God". Sorry Fester - science is defined as the study of the material world. Anything beyond that is outside the purview of science, by definition. Unless, of course, you'd like to introduce "God" onto the stage as a wholly material being - then you can make "God" a part of science. But I don't think that'll play too well from the pulpit.

And for God's sake don't bring my plumber into this. We're dealing with the fundamental assumptions inherent in anyone who undertakes to understand objective reality.

And the fundamental assumptions inherent in anyone who undertakes to understand objectively real plumbing. You call your plumber and report a clogged drain. I hate to say it, but my bet is that your plumber has a priori ruled out the supernatural, including God, as the cause of your clog. So how come you aren't complaining to him about the atheistic nature of his profession and the assumptions therein?

898 posted on 01/05/2006 7:40:30 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Why did the Designer run the main sewer through a recreational area? Perhaps a fan of Jean Valjean?

Could be worse. Animals in the phylum Cnidaria (jellyfish, sea anemones, coral polyps) have a gut with only one opening. Imagine dealing with sewage regularly backing out of the drain...

899 posted on 01/05/2006 7:41:45 PM PST by Quark2005 (Divination is NOT science.)
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To: PatrickHenry; Coyoteman

And you call Coyoteman's placemarker "ugly?"


900 posted on 01/05/2006 7:42:42 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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