[ricks_place]

Nor we will see enforcement in any new program. How many times does it have to be pointed out that when it comes to immigration the government simply refuses to do it so excuse us for our cynical attitudes that will suddenly change with a new guest worker program.... If there is no enforcement, no policy at all will work.

Since that's what most of us want you are basically calling us xenophobes. I did not say this you did. What the heck are you talking about "it depends on the meaning of 'is' is".

...most of us... Generally, anyone with a different view on legal and illegal immigration is attacked when the issue arises here so I suppose only those with a certain view stick around.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Other outcomes and methods or the order of importance can be debated, but xenophobia is foolish.

Are you not aware of what you have said? Here's a quote from post 193:

Other outcomes and methods or the order of importance can be debated, but xenophobia is foolish.

There's no way to take that statement out of context, however the person wants the laws enforced, whether gradually or all at once you're implying xenophobia. Did it ever occur to you that fear of foreigners may not be the motive but rather it's the massive lawbreaking that's going on at taxpayer's expense?