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To: ovrtaxt
It's pointless for the two sides to come to an agreement over this issue. Overall, we should, as conservatives, agree that the government has no place in education, since they suck so bad at it.

Well, first off, creation or I.D. should never be taught in science. The data provided by these people does not provide the basis to create a proper scientific theory that can be tested over and over. Usually it provides data that can be disproven.

Now this creationism etc. can be taught in religious courses since they are belief based.

As for the government sucking so bad at education, well I remember a time when most humans did not read or write. We have come a long way since then and thanks to education for everyone in countries like the USA, I think society as a whole is much better off.

Can it do better. Oh yes. Government has a place in education, may it be through grants to private schools or actual funding. I think that is what some parents want - a choice.

19 posted on 12/28/2005 4:58:56 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: hawkaw
Now this creationism etc. can be taught in religious courses since they are belief based.

Don't make me say it.

24 posted on 12/28/2005 5:14:49 AM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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To: hawkaw

Literacy in this country was a lot higher before the advent of public schools. Government has no place in education in a free society. Government is a coercive institution by necessity and it is inimitable to education. Vouchers are simply a way to get the government's foot in the door of private and religious schools.


74 posted on 12/28/2005 6:51:21 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: hawkaw

Well, first off, creation or I.D. should never be taught in science. The data provided by these people does not provide the basis to create a proper scientific theory that can be tested over and over. Usually it provides data that can be disproven.

Do you have proof that macroevolution occurred?


258 posted on 12/28/2005 11:28:58 AM PST by Chickensoup (Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Chri)
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To: hawkaw

"Well, first off, creation or I.D. should never be taught in science."

Neither should evoluation. It is, after all, only a theory, and as "far-fetched" as some believe I.D. is.


287 posted on 12/28/2005 12:25:33 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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