Moral Absolutes Ping.
I'm sure you're tired of reading about this (deleted noun), I am. But in the interests of knowing the truth and not hiding one's head in the sand pretending that everything is hunkey dorey, here's another article about legalized group sex in Canada.
A lot more information in this article. I did not realize that the age of consent in Canada is 14. FOURTEEN! So fourteen year old kids can legally enter these "establishments" and - well, do what everyone else is doing there.
The fact that a number of people on another thread are supporting this as benign is mind boggling to me, and the funny thing is that they never address any of my arguments. Just make the usual "nanny state" type arguments.
Look at it this way - which is more government fascistic type intrusion - allowing municipalities and states and counties to make their own laws about whether they want legalized orgy clubs or not, or forcing said orgy clubs on everyone by judicial fiat? Hmmm?
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FOURTEEN YEAR OLDS. Canada is off the cliff already, obviously.
Those would be called "libertarians". They believe any vice should be legal as long as it is self-inflicted.
Fourteen year olds can engage in protected group sex now and can't have a beer and cigarette afterwards. LOL
"FOURTEEN YEAR OLDS. Canada is off the cliff already, obviously."
In three US states, the age of consent is 14.
In many US states, it is 15.
In most, it is 16.
I would have figured that it's 18, but it's not.
Actually, states taking away the rights of citizens (who happen to be sinners per Biblical teachings) is the more intrusive of the two. Nobody forces you or anyone else to attend these clubs. But you along with many others would gladly use force to march these folks to jail by the simple fact that you have a majority and they are a tiny minority.
With that said, I have a some questions for you. Why do you demand that un-saved (or "lost" if you prefer) people live as if they are saved? Aren't Christians nothing but sinners saved by grace? Why would any Christian expect any un-saved person to live as if they were saved? Is it fair to expect that? Is Christianity's role in the world to see that sinners are jailed? Or is its role to pray for sinners, witness to them, and refrain from sinning themselves, all in an effort to lead sinners to Christ?
G-d certainly expects his followers to live by his teachings, but it seems to me that the Bible also teaches that the lost will live like the lost do, in sin. He wants all to follow his moral abosolutes, but he wants us to do so by choice, not by force.
Donning my flame retardant suit now. LOL
One moral of the story - don't let your 14 yr. old go to Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before the advent of schooling, when children were allowed to grow up, I could (barely) see 14 years of age as a minimum age for marital sex. But non-marital sexual activity? Insane.