Posted on 12/21/2005 8:10:33 AM PST by tallhappy
"This is a victory beyond our wildest dreams," said Witold Walczak, legal director for the ACLU-Pennsylvania. "The judge ruled that board members had a religious purpose, and he ruled on the larger questions of intelligent design. He analyzed the alleged science behind intelligent design and found there was none."
A victory for the ACLU beyond their wildest dreams? You know that's not good.
What is this victory? It's not about evolution vs some other idea, it is that the ACLU has now got a federal court to decree what is religion and what is science.
The judge may be 100% right in his judgement in this instance.
But it is not for him to decide.
This time he may be right, next time it may be "Jewish Science" that the judge throws out.
ACLU are overjoyed because they got a federal judge to decree what is religion and what is science and to then force a locally elected governing board to acquiesce under the threat of federal authority to their stipulations.
As if they were not elected to make these decisions and as if they can't be voted out or there is no local means to address the issue.
The Judge knows this is not what he should be doing, he stated: ""The students, parents, and teachers of the Dover Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources."
Well, Judgey-wudgey, you are the one who brought it up accepted the ACLU created maelstrom as your own.
This is being spun as some sort of defense or victory for science. It is not. It has little to do with science, evolution, biology or the like. It is more of the same socio-political maneuvering the ACLU has been doing for decades now.
To the extent that it has anything to do with science it represents a hijacking of it to use for socio-political battles.
I'm not a huge fan of the Cato institute, but a spokesman from there made a good comment:
"The Pennsylvania ruling will do nothing to end the battle over the teaching of human origins that has plagued public schools since the Scopes trial of 1925," said Andrew Coulson, executive director of the Cato Institute Center for Educational Freedom. "It, and all the other cultural and religious 'school wars' that divide our nation, will rage on unless we do something about their root cause: our one-size-fits-all government school system."
Liberals will keep repeating and re-enacting in time through the years the familiar motifs that have worked for them in the past. Iraq is Vietnam, Bush is Nixon, Civil Rights movements are forever fixed in time and the Monkey Trial of 1925 is becoming one of their new fixtures.
Quotes from http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/13449670.htm
I received this in an email yesterday and thought it an incredible idea:
Please add one more card to your Christmas Card List! This is a great
idea!!
I'll spend $0.37 to help make the point. Please do the same.
Wanna have some fun this Christmas? Send the ACLU a CHRISTMAS CARD!! As
they are working so very hard to get rid of the CHRISTMAS part of this
holiday, we should all send them a nice, CHRISTIAN card to brighten up their
dark, sad, little world. Make sure it says "MERRY CHRISTMAS" on the card.
Here's the address, just don't be rude or crude - It's not the Christian
way, ya know?!?
ACLU
125 Broad Street
18th Floor
New York, NY 10004
Two tons of Christmas cards would freeze their operations because they would
not know if any were regular mail containing contributions. So
spend 37 cents and tell the ACLU to leave Christmas alone. Also tell them
that there is no such thing as a HOLIDAY tree...It's a CHRISTMAS
tree - even in the fields!!
Guys with names like "Witold Walczak" can be a little excitable.
When discussing/debating this, point out that regardless
of anyone's position on cosmology, phasing out government
schools makes the "problem" simply go away, along with a
huge list of other PC and liberal garbage.
Two tons of Christmas cards would freeze their operations because they would
not know if any were regular mail containing contributions. So
spend 37 cents and tell the ACLU to leave Christmas alone. Also tell them
that there is no such thing as a HOLIDAY tree...It's a CHRISTMAS
tree - even in the fields!!
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I mailed TEN CHRISTMAS CARDS to these maggots today. It will be like a vampire opening a box and finding a silver crucifix in it !!!!! HA!!
Isn't it the judges that make the decisions? The ACLU, is just a bunch of lawyers, not unlike any other law practice. I'm guessing that people in the office at the ACLU, actually say Merry Christmas to each other.
> Well, Judgey-wudgey...
Yup. The sure sign of a reasoned arguement.
Don't worry. They're mistaken, so it's good that they feel confident. The ID movement keeps rolling on. It's come a long way since the early '90s. Just make sure they spell the name right, and make sure the ACLU is associated in the public mind with opposition to ID.
Was Pedro just elected the president of the ACLU?
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PatrickHenry and VadeRetro must be wetting their pants over this one.
I'm not a huge fan of the Cato institute, but a spokesman from there made a good comment:
"The Pennsylvania ruling will do nothing to end the battle over the teaching of human origins that has plagued public schools since the Scopes trial of 1925. It, and all the other cultural and religious 'school wars' that divide our nation, will rage on unless we do something about their root cause: our one-size-fits-all government school system."
The Pennsylvania judge said:
""The students, parents, and teachers of the Dover Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources."
You object to the judge, but call the Cato comment 'good'..
Don't they both in effect say the same thing?
Both the judge & Cato deplore the "school wars" & the "legal maelstrom".
I agree, end the 'wars' by ending "our one-size-fits-all government school system."
That is the solution. At one point I brought up the idea to the church I was attending that they should set up a school Christians could send their children to as it's a large church and has plenty of facilities, even including an indoor gym. I was told that the insurance costs were prohibitive to setting up a school. But you are correct, this is the answer to insane judges.
Of course it isn't. The local ACLU office puts up Christmas cards they recieve from the people they've helped every year.
Oh well! A judge, yes, let me repeat that a JUDGE, the most all-knowing, all-seeing, blessedly perfect type of human in the universe has decided that creationism is false. I guess we can all just stop this nonsense right now. After all a JUDGE has told us to.
A good Polish name, nothing special about it.
It's a phony name. Have you ever known a Pol to get excited "beyond his wildest dreams" by such dreary stuff?
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