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Task force seeks signs of slave trade in El Paso
The Quorum Report/Newsclips ^ | December 19, 2005

Posted on 12/19/2005 10:16:20 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

The shadowy routes of modern-day slavery rings may run through El Paso, say members of a local human trafficking task force formed earlier this year. Human trafficking is not the same as human smuggling. Smugglers get paid a fee to sneak someone across a border. In the global phenomenon of human trafficking, men, women and children are held to work against their will. "Basically, human trafficking is modern-day slavery," said Paul Piñon, the El Paso Human Trafficking Task Force coordinator. "They are not free to come and go. They are forced to work in everything from brothels (to) sweatshops and agricultural industry work, and their wages are used to pay off their 'smuggling debt.' "


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: besafestayhome; slavers; slavery; slaves
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"Basically, human trafficking is modern-day slavery," said Paul Piñon, the El Paso Human Trafficking Task Force coordinator."

Supported by modern-day liberals!

1 posted on 12/19/2005 10:16:21 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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2 posted on 12/19/2005 10:20:06 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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They're just doing the jobs Americans won't.


3 posted on 12/19/2005 10:21:38 AM PST by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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"Supported by modern-day liberals!"

Slavery is bad. Human trafficking is bad. Illegal immigration is bad.

The opportunity for human trafficking described in this article is created by laws that limit immigration into the U.S. this causes some foolish people to turn to smugglers.

Since liberals generally do not support stronger border enforcement I don't see how you can blame this on liberals.

In fact I suggest avoiding politicisizing this issue since it is actually the anti-illegal alien laws and enforcement that create the opportunity for this trade... this will surely be turned against conservatives if we politicize it,.


4 posted on 12/19/2005 10:25:56 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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human trafficking, men, women and children are held to work against their will. "Basically, human trafficking is modern-day slavery


----Doesn't FEMA have a new rule you have to look for work and show you are actively doing it before they help anymore? I can see Farrakhan and Jackson reading WAY to much into this one. j/k


5 posted on 12/19/2005 10:26:26 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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"Since liberals generally do not support stronger border enforcement I don't see how you can blame this on liberals."

Your kidding, right?

Both smugglers and slave traffickers use the OPEN borders supported by liberals to sneak people across our border.

"In fact I suggest avoiding politicisizing this issue since it is actually the anti-illegal alien laws and enforcement that create the opportunity for this trade... this will surely be turned against conservatives if we politicize it,."

We, kimo sabe? LOL!
6 posted on 12/19/2005 10:59:59 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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No I'm not kidding. The better the border enforcement the more lucrative smuggling becomes. Just like drug laws make drug smuggling more profitable than it would be if drugs were legal.


And I'm, sorry that these people are stupid enough to pay smugglers with their own slavery but we have to protect our borders.

My point was that the strategy of blaming this on liberals is not smart because the problem of human trafficking will get worse if it becomes hard to just walk across the border so that more desperate people are willing to pay professional smugglers.


7 posted on 12/19/2005 11:12:53 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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Are you related to bayourod?


8 posted on 12/19/2005 11:25:52 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: BigTex5; Ann de IL; Sterco; voiceinthewind; calrighty; tall_tex; Not a 60s Hippy; phatoldphart; ...

Slavers Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


9 posted on 12/19/2005 11:30:27 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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You've been here a lot long than I have. and I've read hundreds of your posts. But you seem really short sighted here.

We all oppose illegal immigration. But if you blame liberals for causing the problem of smuggling you are just asking for a anti-conservative backlash because it is conservatives who want better border enforcement and better border enforcement is what makes smuggling profitable.

With completely open borders there would be no smuggling and no need for these poor people to trade their freedom in exchange for being smuggled in.

I'm just gonna be honest here. Your posts make me wonder if you understand what you are posting. Saying that trafficking is terrible and liberals are to blame for it is just gonna hurt conservative when people think it through, surely you don't want that...do you? Surely you would not be setting up a false argument on purpose.


10 posted on 12/19/2005 11:35:01 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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"With completely open borders there would be no smuggling and no need for these poor people to trade their freedom in exchange for being smuggled in."

You forgot about the terroristas.

You sound like an open border liberal. If there were no laws there would be no criminals?

Are you sure you're not related to bayourod?


11 posted on 12/19/2005 11:48:31 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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You need some help here? lol


12 posted on 12/19/2005 11:49:12 AM PST by CindyDawg
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I'm having better luck arguing with this brick wall!


13 posted on 12/19/2005 11:50:55 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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You forgot about the terroristas.

You sound like an open border liberal. If there were no laws there would be no criminals? "

Dude, I am in favor of a border fence, severe penalties for hiring illegals and no amnesty of any kind. I support the Minute men.

but I am smart enough not to blame liberals when they are not to blame.

Sometimes, the right policy does have some negative consequences. We should be honest about the situation and make the case that the costs of border enforcement are worth it instead of setting up a straw man argument that somehow liberals are responsible for the consequences of stronger enforcement.


14 posted on 12/19/2005 11:53:19 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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So, in other words, if there were no laws against murder, robbery, or rape, there would be no crimes of murder, robbery and rape???


15 posted on 12/19/2005 11:55:50 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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Dude, do you think closing the borders and deporting criminals will increase or decrease slavery?


16 posted on 12/19/2005 12:02:10 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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"So, in other words, if there were no laws against murder, robbery, or rape, there would be no crimes of murder, robbery and rape???"

No. I am saying we should own up to our decision and take responsibility for our action. Border enforcement has consequences. We need to be honest and admit that some of those consequences are negative but the benefit for America far outweighs the negative.

You murder analogy is a good one. Having laws against murder means occasionally an innocent person will be charged or convicted of murder. But the benefits to society of keeping murder illegal is so much bigger than the risk to innocent people that all rational people favor keeping murder illegal.

Setting a false argument that innocent people are never charge or convicted would just make us look foolish. much better to be honest and admit the costs but show they are justified.


17 posted on 12/19/2005 12:02:16 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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"Dude, do you think closing the borders and deporting criminals will increase or decrease slavery?"

I am a capitalist and I believe in supply and demand.

Closing the borders and deporting criminals will cut the supply of illegals in this country. Unless demand is also cut then the price will go up. When the price goes up smuggling becomes more lucrative.

But it's worth it. it's like the price of Heroin. We want the price to be high so it's not freely available. Of course there is a cost because the fewer remaining addicts become more desperate to pay the higher price. But it's worth it because of all the damage freely available heroin would do.


18 posted on 12/19/2005 12:14:03 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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Closing the borders and deporting criminals will cut the supply of illegals in this country. Unless demand is also cut then the price will go up"

BTW, that is why it is important to prosecute people who hire illegal aliens - to cut the demand side also.


19 posted on 12/19/2005 12:45:51 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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TESTIMONY OF ROSA, AGE 14
before U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee

When I was fourteen, a man came to my parents' house in Veracruz, Mexico and asked me if I was interested in making money in the United States. He said I could make many times as much money doing the same things that I was doing in Mexico. At the time, I was working in a hotel cleaning rooms and I also helped around my house by watching my brothers and sisters. He said I would be in good hands, and would meet many other Mexican girls who had taken advantage of this great opportunity. My parents didn't want me to go, but I persuaded them.

A week later, I was smuggled into the United States through Texas to Orlando, Florida. It was then the men told me that my employment would consist of having sex with men for money. I had never had sex before, and I had never imagined selling my body.

And so my nightmare began. Because I was a virgin, the men decided to initiate me by raping me again and again, to teach me how to have sex. Over the next three months, I was taken to a different trailer every 15 days. Every night I had to sleep in the same bed in which I had been forced to service customers all day.

I couldn't do anything to stop it. I wasn't allowed to go outside without a guard. Many of the bosses had guns. I was constantly afraid. One of the bosses carried me off to a hotel one night, where he raped me. I could do nothing to stop him.

Because I was so young, I was always in demand with the customers. It was awful. Although the men were supposed to wear condoms, some didn't, so eventually I became pregnant and was forced to have an abortion. They sent me back to the brothel almost immediately.

I cannot forget what has happened. I can't put it behind me. I find it nearly impossible to trust people. I still feel shame. I was a decent girl in Mexico. I used to go to church with my family. I only wish none of this had ever happened.

Whole thread is a bump list and a must review.

20 posted on 12/19/2005 2:53:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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