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'Speak English' sign will stay posted, tavern owner says [Mason, Ohio]
vindy.com ^ | Sunday, October 9, 2005

Posted on 12/19/2005 8:53:31 AM PST by John Filson

vindy.com

'Speak English' sign will stay posted, tavern owner says

Sunday, October 9, 2005

MASON, Ohio (AP) — A tavern owner vows he won't take down a window sign that declares, "For Service, Speak English."

The Ohio Civil Rights Commission ruled Thursday that the sign at the Pleasure Inn violates state discrimination laws and creates an affront to Hispanics.

But tavern owner Tom Ullum said the sign is meant to be tongue in cheek.

"We get Mexicans in here all the time, and I don't discriminate," said Ullum, who has owned the tavern for 21 years.

Ohio law says it is unlawful for any proprietor of a place of public accommodation to deny the full enjoyment of the accommodations based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, age or ancestry.

The commission said the English-only rule serves no purpose other than to discriminate against non-English speaking individuals.

Ullum could be ordered to pay for advertisements about nondiscrimination, and his staff could be ordered to undergo diversity training or cultural sensitivity training.

Ullum is reviewing the issue with his attorney and has nine days to file a motion with the commission asking it to reconsider. If he does, the commission will hold a hearing on Oct. 27 at Cincinnati City Hall.

Mason is about 20 miles northeast of Cincinnati.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida; US: New Mexico; US: Ohio; US: Texas
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See also: Judge to get tavern's 'speak English' case Civil rights panel rules 5-0 owner is discriminating, a December 16th article describing the situation in better detail.
1 posted on 12/19/2005 8:53:32 AM PST by John Filson
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To: John Filson

If they can't speak it, they can't read it, so how would they know what the sign says? Let alone be somehow discriminated by it?

Not to mention, nothing prevents them from being served....

Dumb leftist wackos.


2 posted on 12/19/2005 8:56:33 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: John Filson
Ohio law says it is unlawful for any proprietor of a place of public accommodation to deny the full enjoyment of the accommodations based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, age or ancestry.

I don't see the word "language" in that list. Maybe it is hiding in the "penumbra" of that law...

4 posted on 12/19/2005 8:57:05 AM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: John Filson

Excuse me, but just where does that state anything about not discriminating against language?


5 posted on 12/19/2005 8:59:25 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: John Filson

Need to abolish the Ohio Civil Rights Commission.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 8:59:57 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: John Filson

Are they going to force him to either learn Spanish or get an interpreter? If he can't understand what they want, he can't give it to them.


7 posted on 12/19/2005 9:01:26 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: John Filson
The Ohio Civil Rights Commission ruled Thursday that the sign at the Pleasure Inn violates state discrimination laws and creates an affront to Hispanics.

Now how did they get from English TO Spanish/Hispanics?

Seems to me that they admitted thru their own ruling that a problem exists with non english speaking hispanics.
8 posted on 12/19/2005 9:01:28 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: HamiltonJay

They're named and pictured here: http://crc.ohio.gov/commission_members.htm


9 posted on 12/19/2005 9:02:23 AM PST by John Filson
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To: John Filson
Could it be because he doesn't speak Spanish?
10 posted on 12/19/2005 9:03:08 AM PST by Stark_GOP
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To: John Filson
I live in this town. They've got two signs now, that one and one that says:

"MERRY CHRISTMAS, ACLU!"

LOL!

11 posted on 12/19/2005 9:03:58 AM PST by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: John Filson

Sounds more like discrimination against mutes than Spanish speakers.... Spaninsh speakers could at least talk English if they wanted to.


12 posted on 12/19/2005 9:04:52 AM PST by darbymcgill
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ONLY Hispanics (I hate that word)? What about Vanuatuans?.........


13 posted on 12/19/2005 9:04:59 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: John Filson
t is unlawful for any proprietor of a place of public accommodation to deny the full enjoyment of the accommodations based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, age or ancestry.

Funny, I don't see the word "language" there...

14 posted on 12/19/2005 9:05:34 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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To: The G Man

"For BETTER Service, Speak English"


15 posted on 12/19/2005 9:06:09 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: John Filson

Any American who has ever lived abroad, knows that beer sounds pretty much like beer, whatever language you order it in.

Seems reasonable to cut them off when they are too drunk to order beer in a language the BT can understand.


16 posted on 12/19/2005 9:06:13 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (I'm finally smart enough to realize how dumb I really am..)
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To: The G Man

Since you are from there, can you tell us why there are no white people on this 'Civil Rights Commission'?


17 posted on 12/19/2005 9:08:15 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Don't you know why there aren't any Caucasians on that board? Because it would violate the diversity rules of the wackos who created it in the first place!!!
18 posted on 12/19/2005 9:14:54 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: John Filson
The Ohio Civil Rights Commission ruled Thursday that the sign ("For Service, Speak English.") at the Pleasure Inn violates state discrimination laws and creates an affront to Hispanics.

Sacre bleu!

19 posted on 12/19/2005 9:14:57 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

I don't see any sort of right not to be offended in the Constitution, either.


20 posted on 12/19/2005 9:20:05 AM PST by John Filson
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