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Clinton NSA Eavesdropped on U.S. Calls
Newsmax ^ | Sunday, Dec. 18, 2005

Posted on 12/19/2005 8:06:43 AM PST by hags

During the 1990's under President Clinton, the National Security Agency monitored millions of private phone calls placed by U.S. citizens and citizens of other countries under a super secret program code-named Echelon.

On Friday, the New York Times suggested that the Bush administration has instituted "a major shift in American intelligence-gathering practices" when it "secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without [obtaining] court-approved warrants."

But in fact, the NSA had been monitoring private domestic telephone conversations on a much larger scale throughout the 1990s - all of it done without a court order, let alone a catalyst like the 9/11 attacks.

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TOPICS: Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eavesdropping; echelon; homelandsecurity; nsa; patriotleak; spying; x42
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1 posted on 12/19/2005 8:06:44 AM PST by hags
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To: hags

From the NY Slimes: "Doh!"


2 posted on 12/19/2005 8:07:21 AM PST by hags
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To: hags
"During the 1990's under President Clinton, the National Security Agency monitored millions of private phone calls placed by U.S. citizens and citizens of other countries under a super secret program code-named Echelon"

The lefties think America has forgotten but the memory hole is closed!

3 posted on 12/19/2005 8:08:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: hags

Too bad it didn't stop 9/11.


4 posted on 12/19/2005 8:09:01 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: hags

more on Echelon




http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Echelon%2Bnsa


5 posted on 12/19/2005 8:10:37 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: hags

Yeah, but I didn't hear about this on TV so it can't be true.

 

 

6 posted on 12/19/2005 8:10:43 AM PST by Fintan (See??? Sometimes I do read the articles.)
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To: hags; angkor


50 USC 1802 Permits Warrantless Surveillance

Posted by angkor
On 12/19/2005 4:25:09 AM PST · 58 replies · 1,249+ views

United States Code ^ | 12/19/2005 | Self
Throughout the "illegal wiretaps" debacle of the last several days we have not heard a single citation of the actual law that is alleged to have been violated. And that's from both the accusers (Rats, the NYT, WashPost, etc.) as well as Republicans, up to and including the White House staff (e.g., Condi Rice on talking head circuit, Sunday morning, where she did not cite the law in defense of the practice). Well, the fact of the matter is that the alleged "illegal surveillance" is not illegal at all. In fact it is specifically permitted under 50 USC 1802, and...


7 posted on 12/19/2005 8:11:12 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: ladyjane

Clinton was only evesdropping the calls of people testifying before the Independent Council.


8 posted on 12/19/2005 8:11:14 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: hags


So THERE! Take that lefties.

Of course, in their way of thinking,it was perfectly
acceptable under Clinton but not now.


9 posted on 12/19/2005 8:11:43 AM PST by ninergold3 (aka GiantsPrincess)
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To: hags

there was quite a discussion on this subject last night http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543118/posts


10 posted on 12/19/2005 8:13:50 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: ladyjane

"Too bad it didn't stop 9/11"

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If it had been used for national security instead of partisan politics it might have.


11 posted on 12/19/2005 8:14:05 AM PST by Roccus (Able Danger? What's an Able Danger?)
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To: hags
But in fact, the NSA had been monitoring private domestic telephone conversations on a much larger scale throughout the 1990s - all of it done without a court order, let alone a catalyst like the 9/11 attacks.

The Patriot Act, along with congress empowered president Bush to wiretap. What legal avenue did Clinton have? Is it time to arrest him?

12 posted on 12/19/2005 8:15:06 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Exactly. How else would he know who to sic the IRS on? The FBI files can only do so much.


13 posted on 12/19/2005 8:15:22 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Make high definition tv fun. Aggravate 'em until their heads explode.)
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To: hags
Still, the Times repeatedly insisted on Friday that NSA surveillance under Bush had been unprecedented, at one point citing anonymously an alleged former national security official who claimed: "This is really a sea change. It's almost a mainstay of this country that the NSA only does foreign searches."
14 posted on 12/19/2005 8:15:31 AM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: Jigsaw John

".......an alleged former national security official..."

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Sandy Burgler?


15 posted on 12/19/2005 8:17:32 AM PST by Roccus (Able Danger? What's an Able Danger?)
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To: hags
Clinton is one tricky, sneaky character!


16 posted on 12/19/2005 8:20:03 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: hags

Echelon has been rumored in existence since Clinton. Some people think farther back, But I don't know.


17 posted on 12/19/2005 8:20:37 AM PST by desherwood7
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To: hags

....not to mention the number of conservatives and Republicans the Clintons had the IRS audit...some of them more than two times...


18 posted on 12/19/2005 8:23:25 AM PST by auto power
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To: hags; administrator
DUPLICATE THREAD - this was posted over the weekend.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543110/posts

19 posted on 12/19/2005 8:23:40 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ninergold3

Of course, in their way of thinking,it was perfectly
acceptable under Clinton but not now.



So was ok that clinton did it?


20 posted on 12/19/2005 8:25:42 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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