Congress poised to pass anti-meth law restricting sale of cold medicines (behind store counters)

ap on San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 12/9/05 | Sam Hananel - ap

[TKDietz]

"What percentage of these actually turn themselves around?"

Probably not many without burning a lot of bridges for themselves first.

[lainie]

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20051211-110231-2800r.htm

"The conference report also authorized several contentious provisions of the Patriot Act, including roving wiretaps, 'sneak-and-peek' searches, and secret warrants for books and other records at businesses, hospitals and libraries."

"poised to pass by year's end"

[af_vet_rr]

Great...treating more and more people like criminals. Just because we get a runny nose.

Another article at Wired: Sens. Jim Talent, R-Missouri, and Dianne Feinstein, D-California, who pushed the legislation in the Senate, insisted the limit was needed to curb the meth epidemic.

It gets worse - some companies are already replacing ingredients in their forumulas to get around this act, leading to much less effective medications.

We already have to do this in Texas.

It's so damned ridiculous it's not even funny - something I've been able to buy the last few years, off the shelf for a decent price, and because of some methheads, you, me, and everybody else is now deemed a criminal and must sign a logbook and show a photo ID.

Yet one more sign the GOP no longer stands for Conservative beliefs - the government has to protect you from everything!

[unixfox]

How bout a law that says ILLEGALS caught smuggling drugs into the U.S. will be put to death?

Oh I forgot, they are just doing the dealing that Americans just won't do.

[af_vet_rr]

"The conference report also authorized several contentious provisions of the Patriot Act, including roving wiretaps, 'sneak-and-peek' searches, and secret warrants for books and other records at businesses, hospitals and libraries."

"poised to pass by year's end"

Too bad the American people don't get to vote on this, although I have a sinking feeling that the politicians would say that this was to protect America, and they'd wrap the flag around it, and many Americans would automatically baaaaaack them up.

If I told you ten years ago what all was going to transpire over the past few years - lax national security even after 9/11, loss of property rights, now all of this stuff, you would have thought the liberals controlled the White House and Congress.

The Iraqis have been working on a Constitution - we should give them our's - we don't seem to have much use for it.

[oblomov]

The GOP is reminding us that the nanny state has advocates in both parties.

[Lazamataz]

Cold remedies that can be used by drug dealers to make methamphetamine would be forced behind store counters

I see no problem with this. It would merely stop the shoplifters. I could still buy my OTC remedies.

[oblomov]

>>Making meth is illegal.

Apparently. But, if one simply makes meth, what is the injury and who is the injured party?

[vigilo]

"The Republicans have proved themselves to be bigger spenders than the Democrats, and they hold the Constitution in equal contempt. I'm not surprised that they are perpetuating drug warrior madness and embracing statist nonsolutions to the unsolvable nonissue of human intoxication."

If you want limited government, voting Republican is a wasted vote. How long will it take people to figure that out?

[oblomov]

What I have a problem with is that retailers are required to keep purchase records. Who is to decide how much Sudafed is "too much", and who has acess to the records? I will simply stop using these products, despite my sinusitus-induced misery.

If a particular retailer chooses to keep such products behind the counter to prevent conversion, that's fine with me.

[GWfan]

..only about 10% of meth was actually "homegrown"

If the law will help shut down 10% of meth labs in rural AZ, it is worth it. Meth affects the children of the users so much that even this small % would be an improvement.

[Know your rights]

Should it be, given that government can't repeal the law of supply and demand, and that our last Prohibition caused more problems than it solved?

You're actually asking if meth should remain illegal?

Yes. Will you answer the question?

[Just Lori]

I don't think the law of supply and demand has one damn thing to do with it. Meth is a horrible drug, far more destructive. You think everything should be legalized just because it can be supplied? Your line of thinking borders on insanity.

[Know your rights]

I don't think the law of supply and demand has one damn thing to do with it.

Why wouldn't it, since meth is demanded and supplied?

Meth is a horrible drug, far more destructive.

How does that revoke the law of supply and demand?

You think everything should be legalized just because it can be supplied?

I think it causes more problems than it solves to try to ban acts that in and of themselves violate nobody's rights.