Posted on 12/09/2005 5:08:08 PM PST by concretebob
I don't feel expert enough to get involved with playing around with that web site, but I am interested in what people with some experience in air traffic control have to say about it. I'm not sure whether I can make discriminating evaluations without having spent many, many hours watching this stuff as it normally behaves.
Point to one thing I said that isn't a fact. And explain why using an obscenity is considered mature.
"I don't feel expert enough to get involved with playing around with that web site, but I am interested in what people with some experience in air traffic control have to say about it. I'm not sure whether I can make discriminating evaluations without having spent many, many hours watching this stuff as it normally behaves."
Just to add to my video watching expertise :) that craft doesn't reappear by 1300h.
I'm like you, but the coincidence of Flt612 "shadow" reading and the general aviation craft popping out of nowhere near by is interesting.
I haven't disputed any of your statements. I learn alot on these threads. However, when I am called things I do not like, I sometimes choose words poorly in anger.
How much of the available data have you actually watched? In the course of an hour, or 6 hours or 24 hours, how many false returns show up? The only targets that are going to show up on this system are aircraft with IFF transponders or false images. There could have been a 20 missile salvo fired at this aircraft, and not a single one of those missiles would show up on what you are looking at. That is just a plain fact.
For the ATC system to get confused like that, the bogey would have had to get pretty darn close.
"I can show you real RADAR loops that have loads of reflections. Sorry to bust your bubble folks, there is no story here, now please move along...lol"
Have you seen any that were coupled with pilot observation of unusual phenomena?
Not only that, but it was the only missile ever created that modulates its airspeed to fly alongside its intended target while it tries to decide how to destroy it. It is absolutely amazing what Cashill throws out there to generate his blood money income.
Well that would explain it if Venus could make a 1 minute radar track.
Since Reagan left office, there has been little difference in the administrations. Moderate Democrats and Moderate Repulicans will generally get you about the same results.
I'll give W. some credit if his Supreme Court justices turn out OK, rather than like some of the Eisenhower (Earl Warren) and Nixon (Blackmun) appointees. Other than that, how much has big government been reigned in by Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush-(likely Clinton)?
Yep, if I ever get a bottle rocket that can fly 7500 feet up, just before I light it I'm gonna say:
"Hold my beer and watch this!"
I don't think this is pure paranoia. The pilot did report seeing something, and the FBI came out with a series of transparently ridiculous statements, including the whopper that a bottle rocket could reach 6000 feet.
I'm not saying that it WAS a missile, but I'd feel a little better about it if the FBI would make at least a faint effort to investigate it and report on it honestly.
And this is not the first time. With TWA 800, there were several witnesses with wartime fighter experience who said that what they saw was a missile, and that the color of the explosion was wrong for a fuel tank explosion. The CIA person who was sent in to explain it did a pathetic job, and the center fuel tank explanation never made any sense.
This recent incident follows fairly shortly after the preposterous FBI coverup of the suicide bomber in Oklahoma.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a thorough and careful investigation. And I don't see why it's in our national interest to cover it up. Sure, the odds of being on a plane that gets shot down are very small; but if we are at war with fantical Islam, it would help to let people know that they are threatening us on our own home ground, if that is what is happening. Otherwise the Democrats will take advantage of the perception that nothing is happening and we should all go back to sleep.
"So, not only did our phantom missile miss, but it was also a dud? The terrorists were just out getting some target practice?"
Why did the missiles at Mombasa airport miss? I'd tell you, but loose lips...
Only when the mainstream media has been totally broken and demolished will spending cuts have a chance at succeeding. At least we have the tax cuts which have increased revenue to feed the bloated pig that is government.
Indeed, the reason why the AA flight info got transfered to the bogey was likely that the bogey got assigned the same info as the plane's transponder by the software.
Nice post.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.