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Iran's Ahmadinejad casts doubt on Holocaust, Suggests Israel Be Moved to Europe
Reuters ^ | December 08 2005 | Paul Hughes

Posted on 12/08/2005 7:46:41 AM PST by kress

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday expressed doubt that the Holocaust occurred and suggested Israel be moved to Europe.

His comments, reported by the official IRNA news agency from a news conference he gave in the Saudia Arabian city of Mecca, follow his call in October for Israel to be "wiped off the map," which sparked widespread international condemnation.

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

"Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?"

"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will support it," he added.

Close allies when Iran was ruled by the U.S.-backed Shah, Iran and Israel have become implacable foes since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution.

Israel accuses Iran of giving arms and funding to militant Palestinian groups such as Islamic Jihad and of building nuclear weapons. Iran denies the charges.

Tehran calls Israel a "terrorist state" and has developed missiles which can reach the Jewish state. It says it would use them if Israel tried to bomb its nuclear facilities.

Earlier in his remarks, the Iranian president, a former Revolutionary Guardsman who won a surprise election victory in June, said:

"The question is where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live? They have no roots in Palestine but they have taken the fate of Palestine in their hands.

"Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; holocaust; holocaustdenier; iran; israel
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1 posted on 12/08/2005 7:46:42 AM PST by kress
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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2 posted on 12/08/2005 7:49:07 AM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: kress

Jimmy Carter's Iranian legacy in full bloom.


3 posted on 12/08/2005 7:49:39 AM PST by Maynerd
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To: kress

the state of palestine never existed.


4 posted on 12/08/2005 7:49:56 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: kress

Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. LOL


5 posted on 12/08/2005 7:50:38 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kress
"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe "

Non!


6 posted on 12/08/2005 7:50:45 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SJackson

Well, they did get the jews to move already abd re-size Israel.

Might work twice.


7 posted on 12/08/2005 7:53:02 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: kress

Can any say "Ethnic Cleansing?"


8 posted on 12/08/2005 7:53:06 AM PST by DManA
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To: conservative physics

Palenstinians are Arabs. There are already plenty of Arab states.


9 posted on 12/08/2005 7:55:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: kress
"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe.

Uh - too late. The Europeans have already given some of their provinces to the Jihadists and they have already established their state in Europe.

10 posted on 12/08/2005 7:55:30 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: kress
"Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"

I dunno. Why does every raghead in the Middle East including yourself deny this right to their own people? Why is it that the only Arabs who can vote are in "occupied" Iraq and "occupied" Palestine? Why did you kill the Prime Minister of Lebanon?

I guess we all have questions.
11 posted on 12/08/2005 7:56:08 AM PST by oldleft
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To: kress

Ya know, for completely selfish reasons, I wouldn't mind if Israel were move to the United States..


12 posted on 12/08/2005 7:57:35 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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"The question is where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live? They have no roots in Palestine but they have taken the fate of Palestine in their hands."

Where did their father's fathers live...and their fathers? Go back far enough and you find we are all thieves living on land forcibly taken from others. Apparantly, this bozo doesn't know how Cyrus and other tribal leaders originally obtainted the land for the Persians.

"Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"

So he supports the creation of an independent Kurdish state...and one for Egypts Copts? The man is a fool, as was Woodrow Wilson. Too bad TR isn't alive.

13 posted on 12/08/2005 7:59:46 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
Interesting article about the history of Persian Jews

Seems like Jews have a more historic claim to Persia/Iran than Muslims.

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 8:00:17 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: oldleft

Can't these people read the Bible, or do the mullahs forbid it and behead them if they try? Jerusulem is mentioned as Israel's home HOW many times? And how often is Jerusulem mentioned in the Koran? Once, to my recollection, in Mohammed's alleged dream. I don't think Mohammed even ever WENT to Jerusulem.

Likewise, I don't think "Palestine" even existed until the British Mandate and I believe most "Palestinians" are Jordanian Arabs.


15 posted on 12/08/2005 8:00:38 AM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: Maynerd
Yeah, that Jimmuh Carter was some international statesman.

I could suggest a place where we could move the Iranian Mullahs.
16 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:26 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: kress
where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live?

For one, the president of Israel, Moshe Katsav, was born in Iran.

17 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:34 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: kress

I suggest that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad be relocated to the dark side of the moon.


18 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:40 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: kress
The day rat faced Ahmadinejad is sent with his jihadist comrades to Mohamadian terrorist "paradise" will be a happy day indeed.

Please nuke me now!

19 posted on 12/08/2005 8:10:32 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Alouette; SJackson

Hmmmm. Memo from Virginia to head Iraninan nutburger:

You, sir, are a fubarhead! A addled-brained, trash-talking, major allahu fubarhead!

What the heck is in the water over there?!?!?!?!


20 posted on 12/08/2005 8:13:43 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, stop sending my tax money to Hamastine!)
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