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Misuse of Bible blamed for US death penalty culture (Christian culture of death- ha)
ekklesia ^ | 12-04-05

Posted on 12/05/2005 1:56:34 PM PST by emiller

Human rights and church groups have joined the international outcry over the death penalty after murderer Kenneth Lee Boyd became the thousandth American prisoner to be executed since the reinstatement of capital punishment in 1976.

But experts also say that “unwavering belief in retribution” based on the selective interpretation of biblical texts by Christian fundamentalists is part of what keeps the “state killing culture” alive.

In spite of a record 105 countries choosing to abolish capital punishment, America has continued to embrace it, accounting for most of the world's known executions, along with China, Iran and Vietnam.

(Excerpt) Read more at ekklesia.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bible; christianity; deathpenalty
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If only we didn't have that pesky Bible, we could have a John Lennon-type utopia... (sarcasm end)
1 posted on 12/05/2005 1:56:36 PM PST by emiller
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To: emiller

I wonder what this crack-head would blame my support of the death penalty on? My unwavering agnosticism?


2 posted on 12/05/2005 1:58:48 PM PST by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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To: emiller

The only 100% guaranteed method of preventing further commission of crime......how in the world can anyone argue with that? Militant


3 posted on 12/05/2005 1:59:59 PM PST by militant2
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To: emiller

So how do they account for people like me who support the death penalty without basing my reasons on the Bible?


4 posted on 12/05/2005 2:00:26 PM PST by Antonello
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While the American rate is down from recent years, it is still among the highest in the world, showing that the death penalty is no deterrent, say critics.
Nobody who has had the death penalty carried out against them has ever committed another murder. That's deterrent enough.
5 posted on 12/05/2005 2:00:50 PM PST by wolfpat (Your, you're, yore: Learn the difference.)
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To: emiller

How about an unwavering belief that dead people don't kill people?


6 posted on 12/05/2005 2:01:44 PM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: emiller
I agree with China's death penalty policy at least for common criminals. There are at least 1,000 every year who deserve execution here.
7 posted on 12/05/2005 2:02:10 PM PST by GunsareOK
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showing that the death penalty is no deterrent.

I like to point out to these a$$hats that the death penalty is the ONLY thing keeping me from killing them.


8 posted on 12/05/2005 2:02:59 PM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: emiller

Well at least we can agree about something (sarc off)


9 posted on 12/05/2005 2:03:08 PM PST by kentj
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To: emiller

Bad ol' fundamentalists again.


10 posted on 12/05/2005 2:03:42 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Exalt the Lord our God, and worship at His footstool; He is holy. Ps 99:5)
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In spite of a record 105 countries choosing to abolish capital punishment

So what? If X jumped off a cliff would you? Why should internal US policy be dictated by other countries?

I suppose a better idea would be to keep prisoner incarcerted indefinitely at taxpayer expense?

11 posted on 12/05/2005 2:04:19 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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Confusing religion and state. Common enough, but America is not Europe or the Middle East, so forget it. Besides, Christianity is a NT thing, and the OT is fulfilled and chapter closed.


12 posted on 12/05/2005 2:05:05 PM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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A million murders but only 1,000 executions.

I 'd say we've got some catchin' up to do.

13 posted on 12/05/2005 2:05:48 PM PST by evad
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To: emiller
But experts also say that “unwavering belief in retribution” based on the selective interpretation of biblical texts by Christian fundamentalists is part of what keeps the “state killing culture” alive.

Strange, the article refers to the "selective interpretation of Biblical texts," but does not actually give any examples. In fact, it does not quote the Bible at all.

14 posted on 12/05/2005 2:07:55 PM PST by Logophile
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When you can't blame Bush, you can always blame God. "For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoes. (Romans 13:3,4)


15 posted on 12/05/2005 2:08:09 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: ExpatGator

I LOVE it!


16 posted on 12/05/2005 2:08:29 PM PST by RoadTest (Though thou - bray a fool in a mortar - with a pestle, yet will not his foolishnes depart from him.)
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To: Antonello

Good for yopu. Because you are right!


17 posted on 12/05/2005 2:09:05 PM PST by RoadTest (Though thou - bray a fool in a mortar - with a pestle, yet will not his foolishnes depart from him.)
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To: emiller

Perhaps if the Bible were taken a bit more seriously by the US murderous thug culture we wouldn't need to execute so many of them.


18 posted on 12/05/2005 2:09:13 PM PST by CGTRWK
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While the American rate is down from recent years, it is still among the highest in the world, showing that the death penalty is no deterrent, say critics.

Deterrence is an unprovable side effect.To know how many have been deterred one must poll all non capital offenders and have them admit they would have committed a capital crime if not for the possibility of execution.
The way those opposed to capital punishment want to use the numbers would mean that since prison time of any kind did not deter those inside from committing a crime,prison should be abolished(probably what they believe anyways).

A strawman arguement.

19 posted on 12/05/2005 2:15:58 PM PST by carlr
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What this guy doesn't realize is that there are many fans of the Bible that are also fans of 'Tallica.

20 posted on 12/05/2005 2:22:02 PM PST by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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