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Getting Out of Iraq
Rolling Stone ^ | 11-17-05 | Robert Dreyfuss

Posted on 11/23/2005 12:03:25 PM PST by Redneck Limey

Getting Out of Iraq

The only remaining question is not how to win the war, but how to end it

By ROBERT DREYFUSS

George Bush is just about the only person in Washington these days who doesn't know that the United States has lost the war in Iraq. "We're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush declared in mid-October.

But in the rest of Washington, including the Pentagon, nearly everyone else is thinking about exit strategies. Public support for the war....

read more at http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/8799011?pageid=rs.Politics&pageregion=single1

(Excerpt) Read more at rollingstone.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bonghead; iraq; whytheycallitdope
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Good to know we have already lost
1 posted on 11/23/2005 12:03:26 PM PST by Redneck Limey
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To: Redneck Limey

Who exactly does Rolling Stone think won?
Is Iraq Communist now?
A terrorist regime?
A bunch of hippies?


2 posted on 11/23/2005 12:06:18 PM PST by counterpunch (~ Let O'Connor Go Home! ~)
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To: Redneck Limey

Incisive and insightful reporting from the flagship of international political and strategic analysis.


3 posted on 11/23/2005 12:08:55 PM PST by marron
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To: Redneck Limey

Please post BARF ALERT in the title when you post such completely ignorant, politically bigoted nonsense. This stooge is the usual butt boy Leftist. Clearly knows nothing at all about the topic but is so blindly arrogant and ignorant that he assumes screaming his emotional opinions will some how change reality to suit his demented illusions. Iraq is an overwhelming success as anyone with a military or international political background can tell you. Sorry reality does NOT conform to the Hate America Always Dogma of the blindingly stupid Hysteric Left. The measure of the success the West has had in Iraq is made crystal clear by the fact that the political dogma this loser proclaims was defeated 401-3 in the US House of Representatives Friday night. That's right. Not even the political idols of this Dying Media culture know as "Rolling Stone" were willing to vote for this Authors insipid strategy.


4 posted on 11/23/2005 12:10:56 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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To: Redneck Limey
Dreyfuss is one of the biggest idiots in the idiot world of rock & roll journalists.

Just a couple of weeks ago, in fact, he was lamenting that Scooter Libby was indicted only for lying to a grand jury.

He believes Libby should be facing war crimes because he is personally responsible for tens of thousands of Iraqis buried in new mass graves by American-allied death squads. In the immortal words of Felix Unger, "Murray, I don't have time to unravel your logic."

He types absurd things, then reads them and believes them, because he saw them in print.

5 posted on 11/23/2005 12:12:08 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Oh for Chriss*kes.


6 posted on 11/23/2005 12:12:48 PM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: Redneck Limey

Nuts.


7 posted on 11/23/2005 12:13:13 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Redneck Limey

Please excuse me if I do not click the link to more of this drivel.


8 posted on 11/23/2005 12:14:25 PM PST by Radix (Wishful Thinking: A Tag Line Field which actually contains enough places to complete a serious thou)
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To: counterpunch
The Leftists believe that they have won the war in Iraq, which just proves that they're traitors, just as we thought. The fact that Bush/the military is having a hard time with the reconstruction effort validates the dems' cowardice, in their minds. Just look at how they anxiously await news of any American casualty. They can barely contain their glee. Each death hurts the country and hurts Bush, so it's all gravy to the Leftists.

Their very political survival hinges on our defeat in this war. If we win and Iraq becomes a respectable democracy, they look like fools and they wouldn't be able to elect so much as a liberal dogcather in the future.

9 posted on 11/23/2005 12:14:48 PM PST by Bird Jenkins
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To: Redneck Limey

See Kiddies, Drugs DO fry your brain to the point of total uselessness.


10 posted on 11/23/2005 12:15:18 PM PST by msnimje (Bob Woodward is the GRINCH who stole Fitzmas............Cindy Lou (sheehan) WHO?)
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To: marron

Yea man, pass me the bong.


11 posted on 11/23/2005 12:15:53 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Redneck Limey

One can almost see the clouds of smoke billowing around the Cheech and Chong crowd over at Rolling Stone.


12 posted on 11/23/2005 12:17:19 PM PST by Obadiah ( Deuteronomy 6:5)
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To: Redneck Limey
This guy can't separate his dreams from reality.
13 posted on 11/23/2005 12:18:56 PM PST by BallyBill (U.S. Armed Forces.. In It ..To Win It!!)
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To: Redneck Limey

There was a time - in my younger, stupider days - when I relied on my world news from Rolling Stone and MTV. And I was more than happy to accept it as gospel.

Now I'm older, educated, and experienced. And I know that to say that Rolling Stone knows jack sh*t about world politics is giving Rolling Stone WAY too much credit.


14 posted on 11/23/2005 12:21:02 PM PST by libertarianPA
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To: Redneck Limey

Barf warning is missing.

Anyway, the Domestic Enemy Press really is in
full-court-press on this issue. They, and their
DNC pals stand to lose big as gains are made in
the global war on the Cutthroat Cult.

> The only remaining question is not how to win
> the war, but how to end it

There is no "Iraq war". That ended when organized
resistance by Saddam's army ceased. What we have
now is the Iraq theatre of the WOT. If we boogie
from Iraq, we'll just have to fight the same perps
somewhere else ...

... plus we'll lose those nice bases for dealing
with Iran, Syria, etc.


15 posted on 11/23/2005 12:21:51 PM PST by Boundless
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This !#$%^&ad dreyfuss can shove and leave our guys alone. He is only a COMMUNIST.


16 posted on 11/23/2005 12:21:58 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Redneck Limey
While I don't think we have lost the war, I do think we will be mired in Iraq for many, many years and with a large number of forces.

We are kind of stuck. If we stay, it will sap our military resources and screw with American morale and if we leave, then the terrorists in a round about way win.

While no war is easy and all carry a heavy cost, I think the average American thought we would go in ala Desert Storm and be out in 3-4 months. Our military toys can topple a nation, but can't defeat a terrorist enemy. Even hate to say it, but we had the same problem with the guerrilla war in Viet Nam

17 posted on 11/23/2005 12:24:42 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Redneck Limey

Where is the "Extreme Barf Alert"?


18 posted on 11/23/2005 12:26:23 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1527359/posts
The Crying Game
NRO ^ | 23 Nov 05 | Victor Davis Hansen


Posted on 11/23/2005 9:04:23 AM CST by rellimpank


The Crying Game So near in Iraq, so far at home.

"The president misled us." "Still no WMDs." "If I had only known then what I do now…"

This is the intellectual level of Democratic wartime criticism about the Bush administration as we near the third Iraqi election — the one that will finally give faces to the first truly elected parliamentary government in the Arab world.


(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
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Rebuttal to this absurdity found here.


19 posted on 11/23/2005 12:26:36 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Redneck Limey

The only "issue" the hard left has to screech about. Will collapse as the others have.


20 posted on 11/23/2005 12:27:17 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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