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Walter Pincus knew Valerie since 1996
Washington Post
| January 12, 1996
| Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writer
Posted on 11/21/2005 1:05:16 AM PST by SBD1
Edited on 11/21/2005 1:31:30 AM PST by Jim Robinson.
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BODY: She was a CIA case officer working in Europe covertly, holding herself out as the representative of a Texas foundation that was interested in world economics.
Unlike most CIA case officers overseas who work out of U.S. embassies and purport to be diplomats, she was operating under what CIA calls "nonofficial cover" (NOC).
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anderson; baumgartner; catherineanderson; catherineianderson; cathyanderson; cathyianderson; cia; cialeak; fredrustmann; hughredmond; maryabaumgartner; maryannbaumgartner; marybaumgartner; nigerflap; noc; nocs; pincus; redmond; rustmann; wp
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To: SBD1
The woman in the '95 Paris debacle was named "Mary Ann Baumgartner" from Dallas Market Centre.
Is the suggestion that Mary Ann was Valerie Plame?
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posted on
11/21/2005 3:49:14 AM PST
by
james500
To: SBD1
I, too, would like more information on this story such as the title,and does Pincus mention Plame by name. I did a search of the Post and the only story that matches the date is one titled "Agencies debate value of being out in the cold" Pincus, Walter; The Washington Post; Jan 12, 1996; pg. A18. Unfortunately it is not for sale.
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posted on
11/21/2005 3:59:15 AM PST
by
Lecie
To: cyncooper; YaYa123; Shermy
Check this out...cyn and Shermy ....Old Walter knew who Val was far back as 1996......Hmmmmm.
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posted on
11/21/2005 4:04:42 AM PST
by
Dog
To: SBD1
I read on a FR thread within the last few days that Walter Pincus's wife Anne worked in the Clinton State Dept., Bureau of Intelligence and Research.
To: Bob from De
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posted on
11/21/2005 4:08:28 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: Shermy; cyncooper
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posted on
11/21/2005 4:11:58 AM PST
by
Dog
To: SBD1
Paris, hmmmmmm? French Intelligence, hmmmmm?
The plot thickens.
To: Lancey Howard
"No doubt she bragged about being a secret agent on their second date."During a session of "heavy petting"? She sure doesn't seem like the type of person I would hire as a secret agent. James Bond she ain't.
To: SBD1
Fred Rustmann,... was Plames boss for a few years, says Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s say, as a U.S. embassy attache before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later. Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a nice European city.
How come? Palme worked as a US embassy attache first - before switching to nonofficial cover a few year later? That is the most stupid thing happened in the history of spying.
Don't you think that each country spy services has in their data base the foreign people listed as "embassy attache"?
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posted on
11/21/2005 4:53:48 AM PST
by
SeeSalt
To: SBD1
I just love telling acquaintances what to watch for in the snews, and have them come back a couple of days later asking "where'd you hear that story?" I'll only concede the source if I believe they're truly ready for the blue pill.
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posted on
11/21/2005 5:19:45 AM PST
by
polymuser
(I wish the Republicans had a majority in Congress.)
To: SBD1
Baumgartner or Plame? Sounds like this was about Baumgartner. Please prove me wrong.
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posted on
11/21/2005 5:35:39 AM PST
by
Homer1
To: Lancey Howard
When tradecraft errors led to her entrapment by French counterintelligence
Translated, that means she screwed up. Her alias was Catherine Irene Anderson. She was a Cover photographer for Deep magazine. They were a startup company and couldn't afford nice big cameras so she had to use little bitty ones.
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posted on
11/21/2005 5:36:44 AM PST
by
OSHA
(Liberalism - Is it real or is it Scrappleface?)
To: SBD1
"...and if anybody calls the corporation, the secretary says, Yeah, he works for us, You mean just like the CIA did when Novak called them asking if Valerie Plame worked there?
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posted on
11/21/2005 5:38:41 AM PST
by
shezza
(Giving thanks for America's heroes, past and present)
To: advance_copy
sounds like he was counter-intelligence in the Army. Don't get my hopes up...
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posted on
11/21/2005 5:40:11 AM PST
by
Homer1
To: Homer1
There were 2 women involved in this incident. Baumgartner was not the NOC, she was working at the Embassy and recruited Henri. Valerie, I contend was "the big boss" who asked Henri the off the wall Hollywood question.
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posted on
11/21/2005 5:44:51 AM PST
by
SBD1
To: Dog
Regardless of whether Baumgartner = Plame, Plame could have been one of the five agents kicked out of the country by the French interior minister.
To: SBD1
Sounds like this Joe Wilson "free" agent business was not about gathering intel rather planting intel.
They get somebody to talk up his and by association her name then they can accuse the President and allllll his MEN of "outing" her.
Now if Pincus knew Val gal, doesn't his wife work at the State Dept???? The Staters wanted to protect Saddam as much as anybody did.
The commonality of this 'plot' reminds me of that Redford/Dunaway CIA thriller, those "coverts" were ONLY analysts.
To: Just mythoughts; Dog; SBD1; Lancey Howard; popdonnelly; Homer1
Mary-Ann Baumgartner is described as a woman in her 60s in French newspapers.
According to other sources Valerie Plame was initially stationed in Athens and then moved to Brussels.
(Of course she could have been involved in the French affair - but should not be mixed up with Ms Baumgartner.)
Sorry, do not have any links at hand at the moment. If you require them, please FReepmail me.
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posted on
11/21/2005 6:33:26 AM PST
by
ScaniaBoy
(Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
To: ScaniaBoy
bump and thanks, There is something just so Scott Ritter about this whole affair.
To: SBD1
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posted on
11/21/2005 7:15:34 AM PST
by
mattdono
("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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