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Walter Pincus knew Valerie since 1996
Washington Post | January 12, 1996 | Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writer

Posted on 11/21/2005 1:05:16 AM PST by SBD1

Edited on 11/21/2005 1:31:30 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

BODY: She was a CIA case officer working in Europe covertly, holding herself out as the representative of a Texas foundation that was interested in world economics.

Unlike most CIA case officers overseas who work out of U.S. embassies and purport to be diplomats, she was operating under what CIA calls "nonofficial cover" (NOC).



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Doesn’t this story sound familar? It sure sounds like the story I posted last week where former CIA Russman, Plames’ former boss, hints that this NOC was Valerie with similar language to the above story.

NOC NOC. Who’s There? A Special Kind of Agent Time Magazine Michael Duffy and Timothy J. Burger October 27th, 2003

Some Bush partisans have suggested that the outing of Plame is no big deal, that she was “just an analyst” or maybe, as a G.O.P. Congressman told CNN, “a glorified secretary.” But the facts tell otherwise. Plame was, for starters, a former NOC — that is, a spy with nonofficial cover who worked overseas as a private individual with no apparent connection to the U.S. government. NOCs are among the government’s most closely guarded secrets, because they often work for real or fictive private companies overseas and are set loose to spy solo. NOCs are harder to train, more expensive to place and can remain undercover longer than conventional spooks. They can also go places and see people whom those under official cover cannot. They are in some ways the most vulnerable of all clandestine officers, since they have no claim to diplomatic immunity if they get caught.

Plame worked as a spy internationally in more than one role. Fred Rustmann, a former CIA official who put in 24 years as a spymaster and was Plame’s boss for a few years, says Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s — say, as a U.S. embassy attache — before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later. Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a “nice European city.” Plame was never a so-called deep-cover NOC, he said, meaning the agency did not create a complex cover story about her education, background, job, personal life and even hobbies and habits that would stand up to intense scrutiny by foreign governments. “[NOCs] are on corporate rolls, and if anybody calls the corporation, the secretary says, ‘Yeah, he works for us,’” says Rustmann. “The degree of backstopping to a NOC’s cover is a very good indication of how deep that cover really is.”

For decades, a varying number of NOCs (the exact figure is classified) have been installed abroad in big multinational corporations, small companies or bogus academic posts. The more genteel rules of traditional espionage do not apply to NOCs. When the Soviets caught a diplomat doing spy work during the cold war, they roughed him up a little and sent him home. Unmasked NOCs, on the other hand, have met with much harsher fates: CIA officer Hugh Redmond was caught in Shanghai in 1951 posing as an employee of a British import-export company and spent 19 years in a Chinese prison before dying there. In early 1995 the French rolled up five CIA officers, including a woman who had been working as a NOC under business cover for about five years. Although the NOC caught in Paris in 1995 was simply sent home, “it might not have been so easy in an Arab country,” says a former CIA official familiar with the matter. “[NOCs] have no diplomatic status, so they can end up in slammers.”

So, if I am correct, then Pincus knew Valerie back in 1996 when he wrote that story. In 1996, she would still be Valerie Plame since she didn’t marry Joe until 1998. This explains why her maiden name was used because it probably took some of them a while to put 2 and 2 together to conclude Valerie Wilson is Valerie Plame from 1996 Paris flap!!

SBD

1 posted on 11/21/2005 1:05:18 AM PST by SBD1
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To: SBD1

Wow!!


2 posted on 11/21/2005 1:09:15 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SBD1
By the way:

When tradecraft errors led to her entrapment by French counterintelligence

Translated, that means she screwed up.

3 posted on 11/21/2005 1:10:15 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SBD1

Good find.


4 posted on 11/21/2005 1:11:16 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: SBD1

Sounds to me like Valerie was on Paris vacation and not a spy mission.


5 posted on 11/21/2005 1:11:57 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: SBD1
When the woman's spying role became apparent to a male friend, however, he turned her in to French counterintelligence, which began a surveillance that exposed her activities.

No doubt she bragged about being a secret agent on their second date.

6 posted on 11/21/2005 1:13:04 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SBD1

Bump.


7 posted on 11/21/2005 1:13:18 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: SBD1

Tradecraft Errors". That ain't exactly waitress talk.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 1:17:37 AM PST by Waco
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To: SBD1

Is this another FR exclusive?


9 posted on 11/21/2005 1:21:20 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (How Many Lies Will The MSM Repeat To Enable a Bush Impeachment? http://lnsmitheeblog.blogspot.com)
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To: SBD1

Good find.


10 posted on 11/21/2005 1:26:15 AM PST by Fedora
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When tradecraft errors led to her entrapment by French counterintelligence, she left the country and her case eventually became a public embarrassment for both Washington and Paris.

Super Spy Women was an incompetant hack.

11 posted on 11/21/2005 1:32:42 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: SBD1

I absolutely agree with your conclusion that the woman Pincus wrote about in 1996 was Plame. It is likely, however, that he got the story about her second-hand and didn't know her personally and didn't even know her name.

However, this certainly nails down the timeline - - she was exposed "several years" prior to 1996 and brought in. She was obviously not "covert" after that and so her status could not have triggered any violation of the Intelligence Identities act which specifies "abroad" and "within five years".

This story also seems to kill the theory that Plame was brought in because of a fear that her identity had been revealed by Aldrich Ames.


12 posted on 11/21/2005 1:41:03 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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One more thing: It will be interesting to see Libby's lawyers questioning Pincus about this story on the stand, under oath. That's going to be one fun trial (if it actually gets that far).


13 posted on 11/21/2005 1:43:30 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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This is no surprise. Walter Pincus is a former CIA interrogator. He talks about it during this C-SPAN interview at 8:29. The disturbing part about this is the extent to which the CIA has infiltrated MSM, and the extent to which left-wing collectivists have infiltrated the CIA. I think Porter Goss is working on that.
14 posted on 11/21/2005 1:51:34 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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I think Valerie was more of an "under the sheets" CIA operative than "under cover".


15 posted on 11/21/2005 2:15:59 AM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: SBD1

with agents like her no wonder the cia is so f***ed up.
makes get smart look legit.


16 posted on 11/21/2005 2:51:22 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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A friend of mine was in deep, business type NOC for the US Army for years during the Cold War, in Europe and in Latin America. He lived overseas for years and his work was sometimes dangerous. Because of enduring local antagonisms, there are still countries that he cannot visit.

A few years after my friend retired from intel work, the Army sent a ranking officer to break the news to my friend's wife so that she did not keep asking awkward questions about the places they could not visit and his excessively security conscious behavior. She was furious at having been so thoroughly deceived and at first said that she would have preferred that he was with the Mafia or had a mistress and second family.

In recent years Plame does not seem to have been in deep NOC because she was talking to the press, had a bio that could be traced based to work in a US embassy, residence in the DC area, and marriage to a self-promoting chatterbox former ambassador who knew about her intel job. Unlike Plame, my friend had been a successful businessman in the US domestically, with strong ties to a community far from Washington and other centers of power, and with a spouse who never suspected her husband's secret life.

Plame's NOC work was almost certainly never against hostile intelligence services but against companies and individuals that were WMD proliferators. That kind of work is essentially against a type of crooked businessman who breaks laws and offers bribes but does not kill. All things considered, even with her name in the press and picture on the Internet, a quick dye job and a bit of makeup would be enough for Plame to do her kind of NOC work with less danger than to her than she would have during a ten block walk through inner city DC.
17 posted on 11/21/2005 3:01:07 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: SBD1

BTTT


18 posted on 11/21/2005 3:10:35 AM PST by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: SBD1
Unlike most CIA case officers overseas who work out of U.S. embassies and purport to be diplomats, she was operating under what CIA calls "nonofficial cover" (NOC).

And like any NOC working over seas she was considered by just about any intell agency to be a CIA operative untill proven otherwise. NOC's only are intended to fool civilans, not other intell agancies because they never trust any foreigner working in their country.

19 posted on 11/21/2005 3:30:23 AM PST by AZRepublican
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To: Waco

Tradecraft-errors = incompetent


20 posted on 11/21/2005 3:39:25 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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