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Lawmakers Reject Immediate Iraq Withdrawal
BREITBART.COM ^ | Nov 18 | LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/18/2005 11:26:15 PM PST by rvoitier

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To: rvoitier

Can you imagine the great ads this kind of stuff is going to produce in '06?


21 posted on 11/19/2005 12:09:37 AM PST by Terrence DoGood
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To: ark_girl

You got that right.


22 posted on 11/19/2005 12:10:17 AM PST by Stayingawayfromthedarkside (The stink you smell are the liberals fuming after Ann speaks!!!)
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To: msnimje
'of the terrorists' was not said, as you imply.

The article clearly states, "Our troops have become the enemy," was said by Murtha.

23 posted on 11/19/2005 12:14:00 AM PST by rvoitier ("Hug your babies tight"--Luanne Platter)
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To: Wolverine

bttt


24 posted on 11/19/2005 12:19:36 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Wolverine

Sounds like it's time for Rep. Murtha to step down.

Either that or he should be tried for treason.


25 posted on 11/19/2005 12:20:14 AM PST by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
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To: rvoitier
The article clearly states, "Our troops have become the enemy," was said by Murtha.

I understand that but who does he IMPLY we are the enemy of? It sure as heck is not the Iraqi's who constantly beg us not to leave.
26 posted on 11/19/2005 12:21:07 AM PST by msnimje (Bob Woodward is the Grinch who stole Fitzmas.....................................................)
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To: Terrence DoGood

And the GOPers had better use these words from stinking cowards and traitors!


27 posted on 11/19/2005 12:22:11 AM PST by nopardons
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To: rvoitier
What a self-indictment tonight! First, the guy disses the troops and the mission in Iraq. Such a no-no given his own experience in Vietnam. Then, after all his much-ado-about-nothing and grandstanding, he votes against the very resolution his inflammatory speech would defend. Hypocrisy? No, in the press and Democratic circles, that just a reflection his of gravitas. To the troops and the rest of the world, it's just a reflection of his political opportunism.

With any luck, this is the last time we hear from this Vietnam "hero". His fifteen-minutes have come to an end.

28 posted on 11/19/2005 12:27:19 AM PST by MHT
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To: rvoitier
"Our troops have become the enemy." said Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a Democrat


"Our Democrat politicians have become the enemy" says the majority of the American people.
29 posted on 11/19/2005 12:40:04 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the treasonous Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

"Our Democrat politicians have become the enemy" says the majority of the American people.
VERY TRUE MY FRIEND ..These b*stards are selling the whole country down the river over politics and personal gain..That's it in a nutshell.Disgusting is not strong enough . They would put us ALL in harms way just to get back at Bush for winning the last election .There is NOTHING they wouldn't do to spite the man.even put us all in danger and tear this country up with lies. I've had it , I really have..


30 posted on 11/19/2005 12:52:20 AM PST by binkdeville
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To: rvoitier

>> "A disgrace," declared House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "The rankest of politics and the absence of any sense of shame," added Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 House Democrat.

Wow.


31 posted on 11/19/2005 1:01:52 AM PST by jamesm51
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To: rvoitier
I figure this guy is looking at it the wrong way !!!

The way I look at it, If OUR troops were the friends of the enemy......THAT would be a problem.

32 posted on 11/19/2005 1:07:33 AM PST by R_Kangel ("Those who follow wise men shall become wise, ......those who follow fools shall be destroyed !!!")
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To: msnimje
Sorry, didn't mean to come off rough. I see what you're asking now.

I think there are two answers to your question:

1) Our troops have become the enemy of the terrorists. Yes, I see what you're saying, now. But this is a given fact; they were always the enemy to the terrorists so I don't even consider it as being what he meant to say.
2) Our troops have become the enemy of the American people makes more sense since he says our troops, have become the enemy, inferring there was a morph from being our (for lack of a better word) allies. It's as if the dems are willing to intermingle/substitute Bush with the troops in their arguments to turn the American people against Bush. This answer is more plausible given the dem's history (see: Sen. Dick Durbin).

One thing is for sure; there is a bitter fight of ideologies taking place in this country between those who want to construct a United States from pot-filled dreams of yesteryear and those who remember and know how America got great in the first place.

33 posted on 11/19/2005 1:21:33 AM PST by rvoitier ("Hug your babies tight"--Luanne Platter)
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To: HardStarboard
Murtha, God bless his service in prior years; but he has done a great disservice to his nation, his troops, and the principles of Semper Fi.

I am far from being a veteran, and a Marine Vet at that, but I agree.

34 posted on 11/19/2005 1:34:17 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: rvoitier
The article clearly states, "Our troops have become the enemy," was said by Murtha.

Then that needs to be on every single GOP ad, bulletin board, commercial, whatever, next fall.

There are so many people whose lives have been touched by this war. I went home to Chicago to visit my dad last spring, and there was a funeral for a young man, who'd served in Iraq, from my high school--if I'd been 20 years younger I would have known him.

The troops are "the enemy"? I don't think that's going to play well in towns and cities all across the country.

35 posted on 11/19/2005 1:40:37 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: rvoitier
I can't wait to see just how deep a hole he'll continue to dig for himself and the Dems Sunday morning.

Even with Russert's guaranteed Softballs, Murtha will put his foot in his mouth. And keep masticating and swallowing!

My guess, he'll be "coerced" into Retirement early next year.

Jack.
36 posted on 11/19/2005 1:50:14 AM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: rvoitier
Get you barf bags ready.

The MSM will now procede to give Murtha the same "big kiss" treatment that Jim Jeffords got when he changed his party in 2001.

Dateline NBC, Sixty Minutes, Barbara Walters and Larry King are going to battle to " Get the Guest".

We will two weeks of this shameless pontificating of this man

37 posted on 11/19/2005 1:53:23 AM PST by dancusa (Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
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To: dancusa

Correction: We will have two weeks of shameless pontificating of this man.


38 posted on 11/19/2005 1:56:19 AM PST by dancusa (Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
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To: rvoitier
The MSM keeps saying Murtha has been a big WOT supporter. But see yesterday's Best of the Web Today:

This is not news. Murtha flaked out on the liberation of Iraq even before Congress approved it. In September 2002, a month before the congressional authorization, an outfit called Veterans for Common Sense reported that Murtha was "questioning a war-powers resolution that even most Democratic leaders seem reluctant to oppose":

"All of us want to get rid of Saddam," Murtha says. But he believes that [President] Bush "went about it the wrong way." . . .

Murtha says a key reason for questioning a second Iraq war is strategic. He's worried that it would cost the United States not only money and lives, but also important allies. By moving without international support, Bush could alienate Arab allies, and "we could lose access to the intelligence we need to fight the war on terrorism." . . .

Nothing he has seen in intelligence reports has convinced him that Bush needs to rush through a resolution, Murtha says. Even so, he has not decided how he will vote.

Murtha ended up voting in favor of the liberation. Then, in May 2004, as the Associated Press reported, he called for more troops:

"We cannot prevail in this war as it is going today," Murtha said yesterday at a news conference with House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi. Murtha said the incidents of prisoner abuse in Iraq were a symptom of a problem in which U.S. troops in Iraq are undermanned, inadequately equipped and poorly trained.

"We either have to mobilize or we have to get out," Murtha said, adding that he supported increasing U.S. troop strength rather than pulling out.

Murtha had rather eccentric views about where the increased troop strength should come from. As we noted in October 2004, he was one of only two members of Congress to vote for a bill that would have reinstated the draft--a bill opposed even by its sponsor, grandstanding Charlie Rangel.

An exchange with Margaret Warner on last night's "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," though, suggests that Murtha has simply taken leave of reality:

Warner: But may I ask you, sir, if you believe--[the president] says--for whatever reason, Iraq has become the center of terrorism - that if the U.S. appears to retreat in the face of that, that it will be a blow to the American fight against radical Islamic terrorism? What do you say to that?

Murtha: Well, I say that the fight against Americans began with Abu Ghraib. It began with the invasion of Iraq. That's when terrorism started. It didn't start when there was criticism of this administration. This administration doesn't want to listen to any ideas.

So according to Murtha, "terrorism started" either in March 2003 (with the "invasion of Iraq") or in May 2004 (when the Abu Ghraib miniscandal came to light). One wonders where he was in, say, September 2001. One wonders, too, how a political party can keep a straight face while putting him forward as a spokesman on national security.


39 posted on 11/19/2005 2:15:41 AM PST by maryz
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To: rvoitier

Sounds like he's suffering from the onset of early Alzheimer's.


40 posted on 11/19/2005 3:07:34 AM PST by Banjoguy (I will rot in Hell before I buy another Dell!)
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