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I watched the rules live earlier and then had to leave. The vote is supposed to be tonight. If it's off now I'll keep trying to see what happened.

Murtha really IS a jerk. I don't care that he was in Vietnam, and I respect his service, BUT he's WRONG! Look. Veterans are not limited to the Republican party, there are both Democrat and Republican veterans. Regardless of that, Burtha is not only wrong about Iraq, but he's bordering on treason or sedition with his outbursts.

In truth, I don't blame Burtha as much as I do Democrat leadership that is lying to him, AND he's believing it.

Hey, maybe Murtha got a head wound in Vietnam. You never know. Col. Chivington was a "veteran" and he massacred Cheyenne. Capt. Fetterman was a "veteran" and not smart enough to figure out that 80 men could be overwhelmed by hundreds.

I'm a "veteran" musician, but it doesn't mean that every musician I ever played with was any good, or even had the "right" views on music. Some were idiots, some addicts. But I would not go down the road of trying to tarnish Murtha or discredit HIM. Discredit what he said, which is as wrong as when Gen. Sheridan said "there's no good Indian but a dead Indian" (or words very close, for your perfectionists).