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Did Valerie Plame help elect Chirac outing herself in 1995
Time Magazine and The Evening Standard ^ | October 27, 2003 and February 22, 1995 and March 7, 1995 | Michael Duffy ,Timothy J. Burger and Jeremy Campbell, and Adam Sage in Paris

Posted on 11/15/2005 5:44:31 PM PST by SBD1

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How do you ask for an investigation into “the investigation” of an already “outed” CIA agent that was recently just was “re-outed”?? Is the CIA and the Democratic Party that dumb as to use an already “outed” CIA agent as the basis for impeachment to get the President?

Let's examine the way the NOC NOC story is told which sure gives that impression that it could be Valerie.

The quotes by Rustmann “Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s — say, as a U.S. embassy attache”

“— before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later. ”

Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a “nice European city.”

the quote by ” a former CIA official familiar with the matter.”

In early 1995 the French rolled up five CIA officers, including a woman who had been working as a NOC under business cover for about five years.

Although the NOC caught in Paris in 1995 was simply sent home, “it might not have been so easy in an Arab country,”

All of the above leads me to believe that it was Valerie. That Russman did not put his name to the quote as being familiar with the matter is suspect. The writer had to go to a different source for just that one little section of the story. A 24 year veteran of the CIA who was already being interviewed was not familiar with that case when a few paragraphs prior he was declaring Plame was a NOC.

My guess is that this little fiasco was when the media first learned about Valerie Plame. Another interesting thing to note is that the whole CIA spy fiasco was very helpful to the Chirac campaign. Chirac’s opponent was accused of outing the whole incident to the news media to divert attention from his wire tapping scandal. In reality, the Interior Minister Charles Pasqua went public two months after the Clinton Administration was informed and the Clinton Administration refused to recall the CIA agents. Pasqua claims that the US actually made the whole matter public and was the source of the leak. Pasqua was accused of playing politics by not quietly informing the US as the US had previously in French spy cases.

Sound familiar!! I know that some might that the acts above just shows how stupid the CIA is in general, but the above described spying indicates otherwise. The NOC was intelligent enough to avoid revealing personal information as well as any photographs, but she asks a an out of character question about Hollywood to a source.

The End result of all of this stupidity was the Election of Chirac which was also supposed to be the conclusion of the current CIA outing, but this time it did not work as planed because Kerry lost.

SBD

1 posted on 11/15/2005 5:44:34 PM PST by SBD1
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Is the CIA and the Democratic Party that dumb as to use an already “outed” CIA agent as the basis for impeachment to get the President?

No, the Republicans are that dumb to let them.

2 posted on 11/15/2005 5:53:26 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

Rove playing with the time machine again?


3 posted on 11/15/2005 5:56:11 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

The White House has acted defensive, like they did something wrong, since day one. If they had be on the ball about this, this "scandal" wouldn't have lasted two weeks. Why does the White House feel it is wrong to expose Democrat/media lies?


4 posted on 11/15/2005 6:04:24 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: SBD1; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; Zacs Mom; Lady Jag; DoughtyOne; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; ...


5 posted on 11/15/2005 6:27:42 PM PST by devolve (<--- (--------(--do not check out my lame FR home page--)--------)
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To: ravingnutter; piasa; STARWISE

So Plame's boss says she hadn't worked under cover for years. Did we know that he said this before?


6 posted on 11/15/2005 6:33:57 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: devolve; SBD1; potlatch

7 posted on 11/15/2005 6:34:06 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: devolve; PhilDragoo
Plame's the name, blame's the game...
8 posted on 11/15/2005 6:40:24 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: nickcarraway

you're not the first to notice the lack of spine at the times they need it most


9 posted on 11/15/2005 6:58:39 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: SBD1

Clandestine bump


10 posted on 11/15/2005 7:04:25 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: SBD1

Good catch! Now if we can only get Rush banging this drum.


11 posted on 11/15/2005 7:12:38 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: devolve

Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 11/15/2005 8:00:04 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: potlatch
LOLOLOL
13 posted on 11/15/2005 8:09:41 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SBD1

Bump

Pinz


14 posted on 11/15/2005 8:19:42 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Oh oh, I should have 'trademarked' that, LOL. Alert me if you see anyone else using that!


15 posted on 11/15/2005 8:28:02 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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Plame as an “exceptional officer” but says her ability to remain under cover was jeopardized by her marriage in 1998 to the higher-profile American diplomat. Plame all but came in from the cold last week, making her first public appearance, at a Washington lunch in honor of her husband, who was receiving an award for whistle blowing. The blown spy’s one not-so-secret request? No photographs, please

What a bunch of nonsense. The "blown spy" basically gave it up when she married Wilson in 1998. And no photographs? Did Vanity Fair get those instructions?

16 posted on 11/15/2005 10:52:14 PM PST by Dolphy
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So Plame's boss says she hadn't worked under cover for years. Did we know that he said this before?

Yup. In the Washington Times last summer. Naturally, MSM ignored it. Search here for "Rove Fight Escalates" or go to the link below.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050715-121257-9887r.htm

17 posted on 11/16/2005 1:10:01 AM PST by freespirited
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Fred Rustmann, a former CIA official who put in 24 years as a spymaster and was Plame’s boss for a few years, says Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s — say, as a U.S. embassy attache — before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later. Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a “nice European city.” Plame was never a so-called deep-cover NOC, he said, meaning the agency did not create a complex cover story about her education, background, job, personal life and even hobbies and habits that would stand up to intense scrutiny by foreign governments. “[NOCs] are on corporate rolls, and if anybody calls the corporation, the secretary says, ‘Yeah, he works for us,’” says Rustmann. “The degree of backstopping to a NOC’s cover is a very good indication of how deep that cover really is.”

The Boston Globe checked out Plame's "fictive" employer company and found a very obvious CIA facade. No one was trying to give Valerie deep cover. You can look it up as they say.

18 posted on 11/16/2005 7:23:58 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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Bump


19 posted on 11/16/2005 7:25:21 AM PST by Rocket1968 (Durbin must resign - NOW!)
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To: Peach
So Plame's boss says she hadn't worked under cover for years. Did we know that he said this before?

Yes...this info came out in July of this year on Hannity and Colmes. I never miss H&C...I love to shoot Colmes with my rubber dart gun when he parrots the Dem talking points, it is such good therapy, LOL!

20 posted on 11/16/2005 7:29:31 AM PST by ravingnutter
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