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To: nicmarlo
NO, Einstein. You made the FALSE statement that the values of a country were predicated on a common language and culture. It took me about a milisecond to think of a simple, obvious, and clear refutation of this falsehood. I posted it in a snarky question, and I am not sure what you were trying to do by whining that it was about another country.
The point at issue is that VALUES are central, not language and culture. I am not stupid enough to think, nor have I ever intimated that the three are unrelated, but the POINT (again!) is that the VALUES (listed in my post above)are not dependent on the language and culture. You argued that yes, they are, because national values grow out of a shared language and culture. I listed one obvious rebuttal (there are others), and you objected, but I am not sure what exactly your objection is.

Your move.

549 posted on 11/17/2005 7:42:05 AM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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To: chronic_loser

Switzerland has 4 official languages....gee, why would that be? Perhaps because: 1) they have different VALUES for their country. That they value placing 4 languages on par with each other makes them automatically DIFFERENT from America just in that respect. And BECAUSE they value different languages, their culture has EVOLVED differently FROM America, which has historic cultural values of its citizens learning and speaking ONE language, called ENGLISH....and with learning ENGLISH, one learns the history of ENGLISH.

A common language serves to unite a people.

From the commonality of language comes the ability to communicate agreed upon OTHER values....most of which are found in some sort of document, which DEFINES what those values are (i.e., the Constitution of the United States of America).

Through these agreed-upon definitions unique to the particular country, comes a unique culture, which grows, over time, but still holds, through that growth, the "essence" of what makes that country a unique country and culture different from others.

The three are INTIMATELY connected.


552 posted on 11/17/2005 8:00:32 AM PST by nicmarlo
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