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Point taken.

Miscommunication is just that, miscommunication, no problemo.

You still have not answered my question of what on Gods green earth do you have against law abiding legit business owners?

Why would you choose to pit them against tax cheats who have an unfair advantage?

Truth be told, my own businesses are not effected at all by illegals. But.... I have been witness to quite a few friends / customers / business associates who are small business owners who have been absolutely throttled by unscrupulous tax cheat scumbag employers who hire illegals by the boat load. Not only does this put an unfair tax burden on the general population, the government also loses tax revenue because these dirtbags hire "off the books".

Quite a few of these people I write about here found it simply impossible to stay in business and abide by the law.

Do you REALLY think that these tax cheat employers will KEEP their illegals once they are made "legal" by a shamnesty program?

Really?

C'mon, they'll just fire them and hire a new crew of illegals.

You still have not answered my question of what on Gods green earth do you have against law abiding legit business owners?

I am sorry, I thought it was a rhetorical flourish. I sometimes call them "throwaway questions."

I will be happy to answer it if you will tell me in all sincerity that you really believe I have something against them, and that is why I hold to a "shamnesty" program as the best way to approach the mess we now have.

Do you REALLY think that these tax cheat employers will KEEP their illegals once they are made "legal" by a shamnesty program?
Really?

Yeah. I really do. You (I think) believe that the only reason (or at least a big reason) Americans hire illegals is because they work "under the table" and they can thus screw over the guy doing it fairly. -- is that an accurate statement?

I -- otoh -- believe that this is a minor factor, and is only big in the eyes a few bad apples. What employers want is workers who show up sober, on time, work hard, and expect to be paid what they are owed.
Entry level workers like this among Americans born here are HARD to find. Freepers hate to hear it on these threads but it is the God's honest truth.
Further, the illegals working in the food service industry, in the hotel industry, in the construction industry, and in the other various service industry are NOT paid "slave wages." Framing carpenters here demand 14 dollars an hour whether they have a green card or not. That is the prevailing wage. Journeyman plumbers demand 20 - 22. Electricians get 15 an hour. Workers at Wendy's here get 7.50 and hour, and cashiers at Food Lion get 8 an hour. These are prevailing wages and there is no widespread "two tier" system in hotels, restaurants, or other institutions who employ large numbers of immigrants, legal or no.

The worst problem we have here is contractors who will employ a crew, let them finish a job and then refuse to pay, or refuse to pay on a timely basis, knowing that they will be afraid to go to the law about it.