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Events Force U.S., France to Face Flaws
AP via Yahoo ^

Posted on 11/13/2005 10:22:57 AM PST by jimbergin

PARIS - In one case, the catalyst was Hurricane Katrina; in the other, a freak electrocution accident in a Paris suburb.

What followed — drownings and dislocation in the United States, riots across France — has forced each nation to confront problems of racism and poverty that are deeply entrenched but usually ignored.

The parallel soul-searching is taking place in two countries where politicians and pundits have long delighted in mocking the other's perceived hypocrisies and flaws.

"I'm not sure you can say that one country's system is better or worse than the other — neither works very well," said Dominique Moisi of the French Institute of International Relations

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: floods; france; katrina; riots
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Moisi may not know which system is better, but I know we all do!
1 posted on 11/13/2005 10:22:58 AM PST by jimbergin
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To: jimbergin
Islamic rioting is not a natural disaster...It can stopped...
2 posted on 11/13/2005 10:25:01 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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In the final analysis - the world will come to realize that "multiculturalism" and the Balkanization of nations can NOT work...

All cultures are not equal..
All individuals can NOT live together in Peace..

Some bastards simply need to be forcefully civilized, confined in their own countries or destroyed.

Semper Fi
3 posted on 11/13/2005 10:27:56 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jimbergin

The difference is that Hurricane Katrina was a huge natural disaster that virtually wiped out a city. It was NOT a racial incident, despite the efforts of some to make it into one.


4 posted on 11/13/2005 10:27:58 AM PST by saquin
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To: jimbergin

I really see no comparison. On our Gulf Coast, help arrived even before the storm. While all weren’t happy about the amount (only New Orleans was hit? – you’d think so according to the MSM) in a couple days the help was arriving in massive amounts with a lot of active duty, reserve and NG units.
In France, I understand they may start doing something about the problem soon.


5 posted on 11/13/2005 10:29:02 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Dallas59

Excellent point.

I also don't think we, the US government or Bush failed in the Katrina event. Where did the idea that the government is responsible for every single citizen and is supposed to do everything perfectly come from?

Why does no one talk about the personal failure and irresponsibility of many of the non truly helpless people of New Orleans etc.?


6 posted on 11/13/2005 10:29:54 AM PST by garyhope
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To: river rat

tell that to chirac, the insult to charles martell that he is


7 posted on 11/13/2005 10:30:31 AM PST by jackson29
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To: river rat

"In the final analysis - the world will come to realize that "multiculturalism" and the Balkanization of nations can NOT work...". I agreee, but many, if not most or all of my "liberal" friends and relatives and most of Hollywood, the MSM, college profs., etc. most emphatically DO NOT!

I agree with the rest of your post too. Thanks.


8 posted on 11/13/2005 10:32:38 AM PST by garyhope (.)
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Islamic rioting is not a natural disaster...It can stopped...

Indeed. I suggest 'persuasion' of the .50 caliber variety.

9 posted on 11/13/2005 10:32:44 AM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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Socialism ALWAYS fails -- I think the French are finally figuring that out now. One of the reasons they hate Americans so much -- pure jealousy.


10 posted on 11/13/2005 10:33:20 AM PST by EagleUSA
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"I'm not sure you can say that one country's system is better or worse than the other — neither works very well," said Dominique Moisi of the French Institute of International Relations.

Typical French delusional response. We have some French people on FR who give us the same twisted logic every time they compare us to France.

Our free market capitalist system is vastly superior to that of the French socialist system. Our economy is much more vibrant, grow much faster, create a lot of jobs, tax people less, provide higher salaries for same professions, provide much less expensive products, which allow us to have vastly more purchasing power than that of the French, and all the other world, including all of Europe and Japan. We are at 5% unemployment rate, France is a 10% unemployment and the French use much less stringent method to calculate unemployment than ours. In fact if they use our method to measure unemployment they will be around 20% unemployment. Not to count that the city suburbs where the riots occurred all over France the unemployment rate is somewhere from 30% to 50%.

Comparing our prosperous economic system to that of the miserable French one is a joke because it is like comparing a Cadillac to a Kia (no insult for Kia owners).

11 posted on 11/13/2005 10:37:55 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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"It's not as bad as it looks...."


12 posted on 11/13/2005 10:41:35 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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Multiculti doesn't work. Mass immigration means genocide for the culture and people already there. The events in France clearly show the looming disaster. Articles like this are simply spin control, and the media still has the power to define reality, no matter what the facts seem to show. "I'm not very optimistic that this will lead to powerful change in either country," said Thomas, the UCLA professor. "There are incredible pressures not to look at these questions." The "pressure" consists of the obvious disastrous reality of multiculturalism clashing with religious orthodoxy of the political correctness of the ruling elites.
13 posted on 11/13/2005 10:42:00 AM PST by jordan8
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To: Dallas59

Great picture! Note to French.... the looting did not spread to other poor people outside of the initial disaster area.


14 posted on 11/13/2005 10:46:25 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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What is the author of this article smoking? How do a terrible natural disaster and rioting by a bunch of terrorists-in-training become even remotely similar?


15 posted on 11/13/2005 10:46:28 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line..)
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What are they talking about. When the autopsies came in, there were more white people who drowned than black, and our situation was taken care of in a matter of days. The evacuees were relocated, fed, clothed, and given the opportunity to make new lives.
16 posted on 11/13/2005 10:52:43 AM PST by McGavin999 (Reporters write the Truth, Journalists write "Stories")
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To: jimbergin

The communist faggots at AP are making sure the US is also dragged into the mud with France.


17 posted on 11/13/2005 11:12:47 AM PST by nwrep
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"I'm not sure you can say that one country's system is better or worse than the other — neither works very well," said Dominique Moisi of the French Institute of International Relations

Indecision, the way of the French and Socialists in total.

Make up your mind, take action, and decide!

18 posted on 11/13/2005 11:17:57 AM PST by EGPWS
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Ironicly, the two disasters (one natural, the other man-made) have revealed the same weakness in leftist philosophy. The Democrats in NOLA and French have perpetuated the same flawed policy toward minorities (or should I say minority, since they happen to be Black in both cases), that is a welfare supported society which is for their survival.

Where there is no self respect, there is no respect for culture (for the dependent, there is not culture), no respect for private property (they have none), no respect for law and order.


19 posted on 11/13/2005 11:26:00 AM PST by Eva
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Some bastards simply need to be forcefully civilized, confined in their own countries or destroyed.

Worth saying again.

That said, I think that applies to both sides in France.

20 posted on 11/13/2005 11:31:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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