Posted on 11/13/2005 9:38:07 AM PST by 1066AD
....well, what do I know? I never tried to make one. LOL
So, when are they going to start rounding up Reuters journalists?
At the risk of being morbid, when you blow yourself up with that much explosives, etc., and I know this sounds like a stupid question, but how do you die and how quickly? Do you feel anything or is it so quick that you don't even realize it? Is there a micro second of pain before you lose consciousness?
What do these people think they are accomplishing?
What it is is "damaging one's Self Esteem."
No. The contract says "72 virgins" and they therefore must be literally virgins. Analogues and substitutes do not satisfy the terms of the contract.
Eye for an eye punishment. Blow them up too.
Excellent question. You should apply for a research grant. Plenty of lab rats in Gitmo.
I can't speak to that precisely, but one AQIZ member wearing a suicide vest left little more than a bloody smear on the walls when we went to go get him. I can't imagine he felt more than the briefest pain, although I for that quarter-second I'm sure it was pretty intense. I've been on the right side of a wall when a grenade went off on the left side. I have no doubt that if that wall were not there, it wouldn't have been a painless way to go, regardless of how quick it would be over. I doubt it's any different for a terrorist in a suicide vest.
They also have a lot of work related injuries. Most bombmakers in Iraq do not have the full compiment of fingers anymore, and several are missing eyes or arms or are otherwise disfigured. Also, the people emplacing IEDs are often the lower ranking members of the cell, and they regularly suffer catastrophic (and fatal) accidents while laying the trap. There have been a few vests and even vehicles that have failed to operate correctly, and left the operator alive but badly wounded.
Gee, thanks, but no thanks.
Someone should ask her how she feels about hubby now boinkin' the 72 virgins.
They ought to take her and her bomb and give her her wish in an open stretch of sand with pigs near to finish off her remains.
Well what little I know is this; the shock wave generated by an explosive travels a lot faster than a nerve impulse.
Also when the Israelis are looking for the body of a suicide bomber they look for a headless body. The bomber is most frequently decapitated.
The bomber is decapitated by the explosion long before he could feel any pain. The cowards.
"So you feel that any "physical discomfort" (like high or low air conditioning) equals torture? Well, bless you for being concerned about the morality of how we treat terrorists. You sound like a kind person. But I think your standards are a little out of touch with how the world works."
Considering I'm writing this sitting in a military station now with the heat on either too high or too low, I don't think it's torture. You, sir, have read too much into my words. I do not advocate going out of our way to make prisoners undergoing interrogation uncomfortable physically; in fact, I believe they should be made comfortable, but bored to the point of tears, for it is the mental state of the prisoner I want to alter. I want that prisoner ready to talk, if only to alleviate boredom. I want him or her to look forward to that interrogation session as the highlight of his or her day. I don't want them focused on cold, or heat, or the fear of being beaten. In this bland sameness comes a willingness to talk.
I have had training in military intelligence and military law. Perhaps you mistook my theological bent as being soft on terrorism. If so, you are sadly mistaken. However, I believe in being effective, and I have found that torture doesn't work, and discomfort only strengthens the soul.
What?????
"What?????"
One of the most effective tactics in the war in Iraq has been to take captured terrorists and have them confess publicly about how they were used by their masters to commit crimes and kill innocent Iraqis.
By "rehabilitate" I mean that they should be "turned" in an intell sense, and become assets of our side to use against their former masters.
Consider how much we gain if one suicide bomber has second thoughts about committing suicide and murder, hesitates, and is captured. If we can "turn" them, we offer doubt to others who may learn of them. We offer hope to those who are coerced into the service of our enemies, and we discredit the entire philosophy and premise of Al Queda.
In a practical sense, creating doubt in the suicide bombers may well mean dozens of lives saved for each bomber that does not complete their mission.
We need to offer them, the ones who fail, more than a quick trip to the cemetery.
Women suicide bombers seem more easily "turned" than young men. I think our efforts could be especially fruitful there.
The capture of this woman should be used to our best advantage, not for some cheap and transient vengence.
After all, you did advocate hanging for this would-be murderer. I think it's nice we can come together to find common ground on this topic!
This is the only comment that I agree with. All intel should be extracted within hours and days. As to how long it takes for the execution, it should NOT be quick and merciful. It should take months, and be quite merciless. The family of the convicted should attend. Especially the children. Young minds are so impressionable, and behavior is instilled at an early age. It takes a village and all that.
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