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If anyone is wondering why I posted this, I'm just curious as to what you guys have to say about it.
1 posted on 11/11/2005 7:51:26 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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It's agenda journalism.


2 posted on 11/11/2005 7:54:00 PM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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I think the polls are accurate, on balance.


3 posted on 11/11/2005 7:54:50 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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It's just as worthless as any other non-election-year poll.
4 posted on 11/11/2005 7:55:22 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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It's junk science. Kinda like global warming.


5 posted on 11/11/2005 7:55:24 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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Manure. It's a push poll by AP/IPSOS.


6 posted on 11/11/2005 7:56:27 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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This poll has a 51% Democrat sample.


7 posted on 11/11/2005 7:57:20 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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And how does that compare to the poll about Clinton's honesty and ability to fight terror?

You mean to tell me they didn't ask anyone back then? I'm shocked!


8 posted on 11/11/2005 7:58:36 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (But what does chicken taste like?)
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While this bait is somewhat tempting, it is not very fresh. I pass.


9 posted on 11/11/2005 7:58:37 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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Is this the same group of people polled who also like Bill Clinton and the way he handles his job?????????????


10 posted on 11/11/2005 7:58:48 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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3 years of useless Democrats like that amphibious automobile crash dummy, Ted Kenneday, screaming on the top of his phlegm filled lungs that "BUSH LIED" without the MSM media challenging his lying fat drunken ass is why.

With the advent of Talk Radio and Fox News, the MSM media doesn't even try to disguise their left wing bias anymore,. All week long we have seen Mary Mapes on the talk show circuit and NOBODY has asked her how a Microsoft Word Document could ever be considered as a legit Military document. She has been asked by every talking head if she stands behind the documents, when she says "Yes" they simply move on and ask her another question.

Our main stream media makes the Soviet's Pollit bureau look fair and balanced by comparison

11 posted on 11/11/2005 8:00:28 PM PST by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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All I have to say is, how many truely honest politicians can you name in Washington?


12 posted on 11/11/2005 8:00:40 PM PST by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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"Most Americans Say Bush Not Honest"

Most Americans are ignorant.


14 posted on 11/11/2005 8:02:06 PM PST by Bobibutu
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Polls basically measure the medias' effectiveness at getting their message out.


18 posted on 11/11/2005 8:07:18 PM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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No,the people,I would not go so far as to call them "Americans", whom the pollesters contacted say that President Bush is dishonest.

Real Americans know better.

A better title would have been:"American Haters say that Bush is Dishonest."


19 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:26 PM PST by sport
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"Most Americans"? Baloney. I don't believe it.

If he doesn't do well in the polls, it's because of the unremitting lies of the left wing MSM on a vendetta against America and Bush. A very conscious, deliberate and giant left wing conspiracy. It's time to start calling it that.
20 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:36 PM PST by garyhope
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Polls like this simply reinforce the notion (for those of us with a clue) just how utterly stupid the general masses are. It's truly a Jay Leno man-on-the-street world out there.

Regards,
LH


21 posted on 11/11/2005 8:09:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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"Poll: Most Americans Say Bush Not Honest"

This American Says Most Polls Not Honest


22 posted on 11/11/2005 8:09:46 PM PST by hsalaw
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Don't feel so bad. The poll sample only has 51% Democrats this time. It is just an AP/Ipsos 'pollitorial' after all...

Just to add to the media polling bias, here is the recent history of the "ever-reliable" AP/Ipsos polls (January - November 2005) and their political Party ID sample composition for each poll. The AP/Ipsos polls push Independents to identify with either Republicans or Democrats, only the 'hard-core' remain as self-identified 'Independents'...

This is an mixed ADULTS and Registered Voters poll, not just registered voters. Note the consistant gap in the party ID between Democrats and Republicans, strange given the the 2004 Presidential Election exit polls identified 37% Republicans, 37% Democrats and 26% Independents among the voting American public. The Republicans have achieved voter self-indentification parity with the Democrats for the first time since the late 1920s.

This series of AP/Ipsos poll result on Presidential job approval and the American public views on the 'direction of the country' was as always based on a skewed demographic sample that averages 41% Republican, 49% Democrat and 10% Independent composition. I think that when the AP poll fails to get the results they desire, they 'play' with both the registered voters composition and vary the un-registered voter portion of the poll sample. Since the Registered voter portion of the poll averages around 78% and the 'breathing' voter averages around 22% you can see they have quite a bit of "statistical slack" to play with to get the results they require...


Presidential Approval Ratings
AP/Ipsos monthly Polls
(n~1,000 ± 3.1%)


  9-Nov 2-Nov 5-Oct 16-Sep 6-Sep August July June May April March February January
Republicans 40% 40% 40% 41% 42% 39% 42% 40% 42% 41% 39% 39% 43%
Democrats 51% 49% 48% 49% 48% 48% 51% 50% 49% 48% 47% 52% 49%
Independents 9% 11% 12% 10% 10% 13% 7% 10% 9% 11% 14% 9% 8%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                           
Registered 78% 80% 78% 77% 76% 79% 77% 80% 79% 82% 78% 76% 80%
Breathing 22% 20% 22% 23% 24% 21% 23% 20% 21% 18% 22% 24% 20%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                           
Approve 37% 37% 39% 40% 39% 42% 42% 43% 47% 44% 48% 45% 49%
Disapprove 61% 59% 58% 57% 59% 55% 56% 55% 51% 54% 50% 54% 49%
Total: 98% 96% 97% 97% 98% 97% 98% 98% 98% 98% 98% 99% 98%


Note: The AP/Ipsos polls are published in PDF format and become unavailable after one month. You must be a 'premium' member to access those PDF files on their web site. No consistant links are provided for that reason.

Source: AP-Ipsos Poll, November 7-9, 2005 Project #81-5139-67

Hope this helps,

dvwjr

25 posted on 11/11/2005 8:10:56 PM PST by dvwjr
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The RATs have hated Bush from day 1, except right after 911 when Bush had a 90% + rating.

The reason for the drop in the polls is ALWAYS wrong, when the MSM authors the story. The true reason for the drop in the polls is that conservatives are fed up with Bush. It is not the "middle" or nonsnese like that. It is the true conservatives, hardcore Republicans who have thrown the towel in on Bush.


26 posted on 11/11/2005 8:11:02 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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Bush is pretty honest for a politician. More so than all of the Dems, and 85% of the Rats in Congress. He makes some mistakes, but is a good man.


27 posted on 11/11/2005 8:13:15 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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