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Casey 54%, Santorun 34% (Rasmussen Reports) - Ouch!!!
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 11-10-05 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 11/10/2005 12:35:37 PM PST by TitansAFC

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To: Tarpon
The only time I see Bush make appearance is when some Democrat (like the Mayor of New Orleans) is screaming lies and slander on National TV. & In my opinion, every time Bus tries to smooth things over with his enemies, he appears guilty & weak.
Witness the new "ethics classes" Bush has ordered in light of the Scooter Libby indictment!
As if the White House doesn't currently have any ethics?
Bush & many in the GOP senate hand the dishonest Democrats
ammunition against conservatives on a silver platter.
181 posted on 11/10/2005 1:40:11 PM PST by Cindy_Cin
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To: steve-b
Basically, his book is a lame attempt to excuse conservatives' failure to do their job (getting the government off our backs) by attempting to redefine conservatism as not actually requiring them to do that at all.

Have you read it?
182 posted on 11/10/2005 1:40:25 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Santorum)
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To: Antoninus
Don't you understand that most of us a concerned about Santorum losing. He is one of us, but he seems content to let his opponent and the media define him. This poll, whether it is one year out or the day before the election, should be a wakeup call to the Santorum campaign and the Republican party. The poll should tell the party that maybe the base is rather angry at being taken for granted.

Most conservatives are ready to get down and fight to win if we have to, but our leadership seems to think you can win by letting dems roll them. I am tired of supporting a party that has no fight in it.

183 posted on 11/10/2005 1:40:28 PM PST by asp1
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You do not win by ceding the field to your lying opponents. You sound like you are in denial.

The lies need to be countered, else they become part of the public fabric -- that is what is happening now. There will be no recovery, once the mortar of lies has set. We are dangerously close to that point.
184 posted on 11/10/2005 1:40:58 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: Dane
" BS, you weren't hit by Katrina or Rita"

LOL

If ignorance was brains you'd be a big bang. Wonder how the roof got blown off by Rita if Rita did not hit near here? Wonder how all those trees got blown down? LOL, you are something else Dane, I have broken my no dane rule, my bad, I'll try harder.

185 posted on 11/10/2005 1:41:10 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Shermy
If you had a deceased child would you put a photo of that child, deceased, on your public office wall?

If that's the only picture I had, absolutely.

We've got pictures of kid #4 in utero on our fridge at home. Is that "weird" to you?
186 posted on 11/10/2005 1:41:38 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Santorum)
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To: Pukin Dog

we need to do a "Toricelli" here - pull him out and let Tom Ridge take a crack at it.


187 posted on 11/10/2005 1:42:08 PM PST by oceanview
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To: RobbyS
Santorum was a man in the middle, but it is unreasonable for you to expect Tooney supporters to admire a waffler.

He wasn't waffling. He was doing what he had to do to advance our interests. If he becomes a pariah, we don't have a solid pro-life man in 3rd place in the Senate. We have a pariah who loses with no party support next time.

I voted for Toomey. I would prefer him to Specter. But I don't fault Santorum for doing what he had to do. I understand reality is not a utopia. We're better off with Santorum and Specter than we are with Casey and Specter. Or Casey and Hoeffel.

SD

188 posted on 11/10/2005 1:42:13 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
It's about not having the gov't do what private business can do. Some might think it conservative to move un-necessary gov't functions to the private sector.

Santorum was not attempting to make a legitimate sale of the government's weather-prediction infrastructure to the private sector. He was simply attempting to cut off access to data that had already been gathered by the NWS by the general public (you know, the people whose taxes pay for NWS operations) for the special benefit of one of his contributors.

As I said, it's an example of corrupt "crony capitalism", not real capitalism.

189 posted on 11/10/2005 1:42:39 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Shermy
If you had a deceased child would you put a photo of that child, deceased, on your public office wall?

Would you attack someone for how they hold dear the memory of their deceased child?

Of course you would. Disgusting.

190 posted on 11/10/2005 1:42:57 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("She was appointed by a conservative. That ought to have been enough for us." -- NotBrilliant)
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To: Antoninus
If nothing else, he deserves to get some book sales out of the endless bumps by idiotic, semi-suicidal so-called Republicans on FR

Bump.

191 posted on 11/10/2005 1:43:08 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Shermy
If you had a deceased child would you put a photo of that child, deceased, on your public office wall?

Only if I loved the child.

SD

192 posted on 11/10/2005 1:43:19 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: RobbyS

The irony is this............
The reason Bush (& apparently Karl Rove) was afraid of Toomey was because he was Pro Life. I remember Rush talking about it. Rush supported Toomey.


193 posted on 11/10/2005 1:43:50 PM PST by Cindy_Cin
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Is ANYBODY saying that the problem in Virginia was that the candidates weren't conservative

Yes. If Kilgore had signed the anti-tax pledge and not blown off the VCDL, he's have gotten the extra effort that would have put him over the top. If McDonnell had established a gun-rights record that would have earned him (instead of Deeds) the NRA endorsement, there would be no talk of recounts.

194 posted on 11/10/2005 1:44:55 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: stevio

Casey will open his mouth--early and often--it's his style.

Dems suffered a terrible defeat here in PA on Tuesaday. That's why they are starting this aggressive internet campaign today. They know they are in big trouble.

Nigro was thrown out on his ass. NIGRO! A mainstay and denizen of Philly politics!

Today in PA--Fast Eddie Rendell couldn't win an election for dogcatcher.

PA Dems are running scared.

Santorum is safe.


195 posted on 11/10/2005 1:45:04 PM PST by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: asp1
Most conservatives are ready to get down and fight to win if we have to, but our leadership seems to think you can win by letting dems roll them. I am tired of supporting a party that has no fight in it.

We've got a party-wide problem right now, starting at the top in the White House. Personally, I don't expect any help at all from the White House for Santorum. If he's going to win, he's going to need to do it on his own and he'll definitely need HELP from the base across the country.

There's not a democrat in the Senate that doesn't hate Santorum because he's eaten ALL of their lunches in debate at one point or another--even Hillary, the self-styled "smartest woman in the world." The entire homo-promo movement is lined up to defeat him.

If the rest of us across the country can't be bothered to support him to victory in PA, then we deserve to be ruled by the sodomite/baby-killer lobby which runs the Democrat party.
196 posted on 11/10/2005 1:47:07 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Santorum)
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To: Cindy_Cin
The reason Bush (& apparently Karl Rove) was afraid of Toomey was because he was Pro Life. I remember Rush talking about it. Rush supported Toomey.

And after the primary Toomey supported specter, you all always leave that out.

If you are going to hammer Santorum, you should also hammer Toomey, oh that's correct, it's not convienent.

197 posted on 11/10/2005 1:47:35 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: oceanview
we need to do a "Toricelli" here - pull him out and let Tom Ridge take a crack at it.

So swap a conservative for a RINO? No thanks. I'd rather have a democrat in that seat than another North Eastern RINO.
198 posted on 11/10/2005 1:48:12 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Santorum)
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To: irons_player
">>And then there were 54.<<"

"And DeWine will make it 53"

And Voinovich will make it 52.

199 posted on 11/10/2005 1:49:59 PM PST by manwiththehands
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To: Dane
Oh my gosh, Dane! Did you read Shermy's post #18. Please get off his back! We were commenting how strange the article makes Rick Santorum sound to the average voter. It was not a criticism of how Santorum grieved over his dead child. Grief comes in many forms and to each his own. Jeez!
200 posted on 11/10/2005 1:50:05 PM PST by asp1
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