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To: furball4paws

I'm not particularly disposed to proving negatives, but it is provable that allah is not the same God as worshipped by Christians.

Can I prove that allah is not the true God?

I think that if I prove Mohammed used murder and mayhem to advance his religion and that Jesus rejected that in favor of others receiving faith because His "kingdom is not of this world." then I have highlighted the difference between the two.

Finally, Jesus claimed to be divine. His resurrection proves his point.

Mohammed was not divine. His death also proves Jesus' point.


768 posted on 11/14/2005 5:09:41 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Finally, Jesus claimed to be divine. His resurrection proves his point.

Prove that Jesus was resurrected, then.

770 posted on 11/14/2005 6:56:41 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: xzins; LogicWings

"I'm not particularly disposed to proving negatives, but it is provable that allah is not the same God as worshipped by Christians.

Can I prove that allah is not the true God?

I think that if I prove Mohammed used murder and mayhem to advance his religion and that Jesus rejected that in favor of others receiving faith because His "kingdom is not of this world." then I have highlighted the difference between the two.

Finally, Jesus claimed to be divine. His resurrection proves his point.

Mohammed was not divine. His death also proves Jesus' point."

Interesting commentary. And thank you for civility. It's sometimes hard to find here.

I know you can't prove the negative. That's the point. Mohammed says he was divinely inspired. No one can prove it one way or the other. So, you either have to believe it or reject it. Mohammed never claimed to be divine. He claimed to be a prophet and that his word was the last word from God (I always liked that bit, nice touch - adds to the exclusivity). So, of course he died.

Your comment about murder and mayhem in advancing religion is meaningless. All religions, including Christianity, have done that (take a look at what the Catholic church did to the Philippines, among many other places). You accept the peaceful message of Jesus and his rules for living. You use those to reject Islam. And then you use them to support Jesus and his divinity. Don't you see that this is circular reasoning?

As far as the resurrection is concerned, I don't see how that can be anything but a matter of faith, and it adds to the exclusivity of Christianity.

All religious groups try to find some way to make themselves exclusive (a reason for being) and they all try to find some way to spread the word. Some are more physically violent than others. The only exception I can think of is Judaism and that may be the reason why there are so few of them after so many years (Hitler certainly helped keep the numbers down, but Judaism just doesn't grow).

I certainly respect your faith as I do the sincere beliefs of all people. I just reject the idea that any one faith is religiously superior to any other.


772 posted on 11/14/2005 8:12:46 AM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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