To: rock58seg
Great post. However, democratizing most of the Middle East before having to nuke the remaining parts...is the only answer.
The Muslims in the west can be turned into conservative allies like many were in the Cold War...but only if the right in Europe and the USA can remove their mouths from the teat of the liberal breast.
To: GermanBusiness
The only good rioter is a dead rioter.
12 posted on
11/06/2005 10:12:34 AM PST by
RedStateRocker
(Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
To: GermanBusiness
"However, democratizing most of the Middle East before having to nuke the remaining parts...is the only answer."
Interesting post. I have to agree that at least attempting to democratize the middle east is far preferable to letting the nuclear genie out of the bag.
I feel it's kind of sad that these riots are probably going to prevent Turkey's inclusion into the EU. They have been an ally of ours for a long time and their democracy seems to be functional. On the other hand, after the Soviet Union fell apart, there was a lot of wishful thinking that the days of the nation-state were soon to be over. 9-11 proved the foolishness of that idea.
As far as a split in the neo-cons, I would venture to guess that while most neo-cons are strong on defense and fiscal constraint, there is probably a wide variety of opinion on most other issues. I'm proud to call myself a neo-con, and I enjoy the free exchange of ideas.
When I first heard about the rioting in France, my first impression was that they were gettting what they deserved, that the chickens were coming home to roost, after more than 40 years of them and Germany doing everything they could to appease terrorists. However, there now seems to be a much larger movement going on. A lot of people used to, and still do, laugh at us who voice concern over the international communist movement. The facts are, at least as I see it, that the international communist movement, sponsored mainly by Russia & China, have teamed up with the Islamo-fascists in their Statlinist era plan to destroy Western Democracies from within.
In addition, let's not forget that in 1968, "rogue" KGB agents tried to launch a 1 megaton nuclear over Pearl Harbor in an attempt to get the US to go to war with China. Mikail Suslov may be dead, but his legacy lingers on and I have no doubt that there are elements within both China & Russia that would like nothing better try again.
33 posted on
11/06/2005 10:42:14 AM PST by
Left2Right
("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
To: GermanBusiness
I fail to see how giving people the right to vote will equate to some sort of policy that equals the respect of other cultures. Muslims will vote to support their culture, not ours.
79 posted on
11/06/2005 12:42:35 PM PST by
yut
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