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McCain vows torture ban in (all) Senate bills
The Blade ^ | Nov. 5, 2005

Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:35 PM PST by jmc1969

WASHINGTON - Girding for a potential fight with the Bush administration, supporters of a ban on torturing prisoners of war by U.S. interrogators threatened Friday to include the prohibition in nearly every bill the Senate considers until it becomes law.

The no-torture wording, which proponents say is supported by majorities in both houses of Congress, was included last month in the Senate's version of a defense spending bill. The measure's final form is being negotiated with the House, and the White House is pushing for either a rewording or deletion of the torture ban.

On Friday, at the urging of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, the Senate by a voice vote added the ban to a related defense bill as a backup.

Speaking from the Senate floor, McCain said, "If necessary - and I sincerely hope it is not - I and the co-sponsors of this amendment will seek to add it to every piece of important legislation voted on in the Senate until the will of a substantial bipartisan majority in both houses of Congress prevails. Let no one doubt our determination."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 109th; cia; mccain; torturebill
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1 posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:36 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

McCain's an idiot if he thinks this is going to help his chances of becoming president.


2 posted on 11/05/2005 1:29:13 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: jmc1969
Good! Another nail in the McCain '08 Campaign coffin.
3 posted on 11/05/2005 1:29:31 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: jmc1969

Stupid idea. There's a suitcase nuke planted in NYC. We catch the perp who set it up, but can't torture him to devulge the location beofere we lose a city. And I guess sleep deprivation is "torture" now too.

Don't bother running for president, McCain.


4 posted on 11/05/2005 1:29:58 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: No Longer Free State

Now all we need is for the definition of Torture to include self righteous speeches from has been politicians!


5 posted on 11/05/2005 1:31:14 PM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: jmc1969
The no-torture wording, ......"cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment"...

Can't wait to see what qualifies as "cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment".

6 posted on 11/05/2005 1:32:37 PM PST by moehoward
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To: DTogo
Good! Another nail in the McCain '08 Campaign coffin.

Not if he decides to "Report for Duty" on the Hollywood side of the aisle. He just loved that movie they made for him. Maybe he'll run with Her Heinness.

7 posted on 11/05/2005 1:32:57 PM PST by rhombus
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To: jmc1969
He has been brainwashed in 'Nam. His thinking is a little bit addled.

He needs to resign and go to a nursing home. After all, this is the "Be kind to dumb animal week!"

8 posted on 11/05/2005 1:33:26 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you!)
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To: jmc1969
At least we know the old fool aint running for President.
9 posted on 11/05/2005 1:33:35 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: jmc1969

What makes me really sick in the stomach is not just the provision but also the fact that there is no political price to pay for promoting this disgusting provision.

When will people really wakeup and smell the threat of terrorism?


11 posted on 11/05/2005 1:37:17 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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McCain vows torture ban in (all) Senate bills

Dammit. How else can we make them stop spending so much money!

12 posted on 11/05/2005 1:39:08 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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Americans don't use torture, so codifying it into law should be no problem.


13 posted on 11/05/2005 1:39:46 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: jmc1969
Speaking from the Senate floor, McCain said, "If necessary - and I sincerely hope it is not - I and the co-sponsors of this amendment will seek to add it to every piece of important legislation voted on in the Senate until the will of a substantial bipartisan majority in both houses of Congress prevails. Let no one doubt our determination."

Taxation and loss of personal freedom then apparently isn't a concern for Senator MCain.

14 posted on 11/05/2005 1:40:28 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: No Longer Free State

I don't think he is promoting this stupid, dumb, disgusting, outrageous, and pathetic idea to improve his chances in 2008. He is promoting it because he believes in it. That is the only explanation I can give to this madness.


15 posted on 11/05/2005 1:40:41 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: jmc1969
Maybe the good Senator should tell us what he did or revealed under torture by the Communists in Vietnam......or perhaps tell us what the Communists recorded of Mr. McCain's behavior while a prisoner, which they haven't released but informed him of its existence...

SOMETHING must explain McCain's and Kerry's despicable behavior during the hearings on Vietnam's POW/MIA Senate "Hearing"...

McCain is compromised and still responding to his "inquisitors" in my honest opinion..

Semper Fi
16 posted on 11/05/2005 1:42:15 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: moehoward
Can't wait to see what qualifies as "cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment".

Whatever is politically expedient.

17 posted on 11/05/2005 1:42:33 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: rhombus
"Not if he decides to "Report for Duty" on the Hollywood side of the aisle. He just loved that movie they made for him. Maybe he'll run with Her Heinness."

Wouldn't surprise me if he Ross Perot's another Clinton into office as an independent.
18 posted on 11/05/2005 1:43:01 PM PST by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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To: Baynative
McLame is the Chuck Shumer of the Republican Party. He would run over his grandmother to get in front of a TV camera.

Every time I see his phony (brainwashed) smile on some TV screen I want to puke.

The damage his election law bill did to the first amendment may not be reversed for a generation.

He is total disgusting slime.
19 posted on 11/05/2005 1:43:22 PM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: jmc1969
Then DEFINE TORTURE!!!!!!

His bill leaves it up to any judge to decide any time that anything is "torture".

Oh, and it bans "degrading" treatment- what can't a judge do with that?


The sniveling idiot.

20 posted on 11/05/2005 1:44:48 PM PST by mrsmith
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