Posted on 11/02/2005 7:03:16 AM PST by Wolfie
hemp (hĕmp)
n.
Cannabis.
since "hemp" products are products made from portions of the cannabis plant that are excluded from the CSA definition of marijuana
Nice job of refuting yourself. Splenetically.
LOL Yeah, that'll convince me that I should support legalization of drugs.
I'm content to convince lurkers that Drug Warriors are intellectually lazy, which with your help I've done.
As you also convince them that drug lovers are intellectually lazy. After all, you've presented no evidence to support your claims, so calling someone else 'intellectually lazy' is the pot calling the kettle black.
buy as much as they can survive (or sometimes more) and use it as quickly as they can.
And you believe this is because drugs are illegal? Sure. . .of course. . .it has nothing at all to do with addiction. :::Rolls eyes:::
"And local governments AREN'T derived from the Federal Authority"
Who said that? I said, "higher", as in State. Cities are not anarchies subject only to the laws they desire to bow to. Cities are subject to the federal Constitution and the federal laws thereof.
Local governments exist with the powers they do from the States they create. They are subject to the State Constitution and laws. The State grants what constitutes a city and how to incorporate one. The States created the federal government and agreed to what powers the federal government shall have and the states must obey that authority.
As you also convince them that drug lovers are intellectually lazy. After all, you've presented no evidence to support your claims
What have I claimed?
buy as much as they can survive (or sometimes more) and use it as quickly as they can.
And you believe this is because drugs are illegal?
That's how alcohol was drunk when that drug was illegal.
Ah, so you aren't trying to claim that there was more alcohol abuse during prohibition? It certainly seemed like that was what you were claiming, but since you are not, then it seems we are in agreement. Why would you be asking me to prove that which you already agree with?
That's how alcohol was drunk when that drug was illegal.
As opposed to now, when it is legal? Riiiiight. (By the way, there's that claim you tried you say you didn't make. So where's your proof?)
I'm stating that it's very likely in light of the fact that prohibition increases the incentive to minimize the duration of possession per degree of intoxication, which one can do by ingesting a large amount as quickly as possible.
there's that claim you tried you say you didn't make.
Wrong again ... I didn't say I made no claims.
So where's your proof?
So it's your opinion. Got it.
Wrong again ... I didn't say I made no claims.
LOL So parsing words is how you attempt to bolster your argument. Well, if that's all you have.
The claims in the article you refer to are interesting, but just curious - how does one compile accurate figures of gallons of alcohol consumed when said alcohol is illegal? Any link to how these figures were compiled? Without some evidence of validity, I just have to assume they are made up figures. (Similar to the claims of the number of abortions which occurred prior to Roe v. Wade.)
So it's your opinion.
Is it your opinion that drinkers during Prohibition did not for some reason respond to this incentive ... and if so, what was that reason?
Here's hard evidence for an increase in problem drinking (from http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-157.html): "arrests for drunkenness and disorderly conduct increased 41 percent, and arrests of drunken drivers increased 81 percent." - Charles Hanson Towne, The Rise and Fall of Prohibition: The Human Side of What the Eighteenth Amendment Has Done to the United States (New York: Macmillan, 1923), pp. 156-61.
I don't.
Or hard evidence for an increase in enforcement.
Beg on.
I don't.
Look, "hemp" as the DEA uses the term is not marijuana and cannot get one high. If you want to keep playing word games, you'll have to play with yourself.
Or hard evidence for an increase in enforcement.
Ah, a coincidence theorist ... enforcement of disorderly conduct and driving laws JUST HAPPENED to increase upon the advent of Prohibition. Persuasive only to those who have predetermined their conclusions.
That's a false choice. A person need not choose one over the other. They might use either, neither, or both.
The decision could also be either a rational one or an irrational one. The reference to 'ration' is misplaced.
The voters did speak, though - I just don't think they relied on this argument, or if they did, their faith in it was misplaced.
Whats so 'thin' about a 54-46 margin? The headline is odd.
Wrong. Your own source stated that parts of the plant were acceptable for "hemp products" and some were not.
In itself, it's not chilling. There is a valid law in the books and this vote didn't repeal or modify it. State law does supercede in this matter: that's not an ugly thing, that's the way its been done for a while.
Ah, a coincidence theorist ... disorderly conduct and driving laws JUST HAPPENED to increase upon the advent of Prohibition.
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