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Denver Pot Issue Passes By Thin Margin
Denver Post ^ | Nov. 2, 2005

Posted on 11/02/2005 7:03:16 AM PST by Wolfie

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1 posted on 11/02/2005 7:03:17 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

54-46 ain't close.


2 posted on 11/02/2005 7:04:23 AM PST by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: Wolfie


3 posted on 11/02/2005 7:08:30 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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"It just goes to show the voters of Denver are fed up with a law that prohibits adults from making a rational, safer choice to use marijuana instead of alcohol," said Mason Tvert, executive director of Safer Alternative for Enjoyable Recreation, or SAFER.

Yeah, sure, whatever. All the pot smokers I know drink as well as smoke pot. So it's not REALLY the way they portray it.

But I suppose in those cases where somebody chooses one over the other, I've seen more lives destroyed by alcohol than by pot.

4 posted on 11/02/2005 7:08:31 AM PST by Kenton (Muslims want to play by "girls' rules")
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"It just goes to show the voters of Denver are fed up with a law that prohibits adults from making a rational, safer choice to use marijuana instead of alcohol,"

If they want to smoke up, fine. But what kind of reasoning is this? You have to either drink or smoke, so choose the lesser of two evils? I'm content to eat bacon.

5 posted on 11/02/2005 7:09:23 AM PST by Axhandle
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I have never understood why someone would want to smoke pot and drink. The calories alone in alcohol make it not worth it.


6 posted on 11/02/2005 7:17:05 AM PST by mlc9852
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Translation: We don't call what the "will of the people" is, unless it gives us more power or more money.


7 posted on 11/02/2005 7:17:06 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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How in the heck do you smoke a pot? Why would anyone want to is beyond me. I have been to two worlds fairs, been round the world, and watched a donkey show. Never read anything so dumb in my life.


8 posted on 11/02/2005 7:19:21 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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I have never understood why someone would want to smoke pot and drink. The calories alone in alcohol make it not worth it.

Good point, but Doritos and Ho-Hos and large pizzas with everything have lots of calories too... ;)

9 posted on 11/02/2005 7:20:21 AM PST by Kenton (Muslims want to play by "girls' rules")
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Translation: We don't call what the "will of the people" is, unless it gives us more power or more money.

Exactly. This is a chilling sentence: "the state attorney general said the vote was irrelevant because state law will still be enforced."

This is the same logic that the Feds use to stomp all over state laws that they don't like. "Local government" only has as much power of self-determination as the higher authorities allow it to have. Can't let any decisions be made at the local level, after all. What do the people know about what's best for them?

10 posted on 11/02/2005 7:20:45 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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Well, sometimes we just need to use willpower! LOL


11 posted on 11/02/2005 7:21:52 AM PST by mlc9852
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Denver believes, no kidding here, that because it is a
"Home Rule" city, that the United States Constitution, the State of Colorado Constitution, and all federal and State laws are void within the city limits. Not kidding. Several judges, the mayor, and the city council have all said so.


12 posted on 11/02/2005 7:23:38 AM PST by CodeToad
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"Can't let any decisions be made at the local level, after all."

There are plenty of decisions made locally, but since when does the local government get to ignore the state and dfederal governments? Local governmental powers are derived from the higher authorities.


13 posted on 11/02/2005 7:25:06 AM PST by CodeToad
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I'm content to eat bacon.

No way. Do you know how many lives are destroyed by bacon? There is no redeeming value, it just adds to the obesity crisis facing America and offends our Islamic friends. Further, since bacon can be sold across state lines, the federal government should make decisions about whether or not you should eat bacon. /sarc

14 posted on 11/02/2005 7:26:49 AM PST by rhombus
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Local governmental powers are derived from the higher authorities.

Really? Where?

15 posted on 11/02/2005 7:28:20 AM PST by rhombus
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To: highball
"Local government" only has as much power of self-determination as the higher authorities allow it to have."

Whether you are pro or anti pot legalization the scariest realization to come out of this decision is the statement you posted. Think about it the "higher authorities" are openly telling us, it doesn't matter how you voted, we will tell you what you as a community are allowed to do. I guess that whole "Land of the Free", phrase is nothing more than a slogan.

16 posted on 11/02/2005 7:28:53 AM PST by blaquebyrd
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I guess while smoking pot you flunked civics?

Pop Quiz: Where do you THINK local governments are derived?


17 posted on 11/02/2005 7:30:13 AM PST by CodeToad
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"Local government" only has as much power of self-determination as the higher authorities allow it to have."

Then why can local communities vote for "nuclear free zone" and other such nonsense.

18 posted on 11/02/2005 7:31:56 AM PST by rhombus
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To: CodeToad

You guess is correct. You guess.


19 posted on 11/02/2005 7:32:32 AM PST by rhombus
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To: CodeToad

Our Republic is founded on the proposition that local government is the best government. Power in our nation doesn't trickle down from the top, it rises from the bottom. Our ultimate authority is not the Federal Government but the People.

We have inverted that chain of authority, and this case just a new expression of it.

Why bother having local elections at all, if the higher authorities can just over-rule them?


20 posted on 11/02/2005 7:37:52 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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