Posted on 11/01/2005 5:46:12 AM PST by Bahbah
HAS THE BASE BETRAYED THE PRESIDENT? Have conservatives let the President down? Is Bush tired of fighting conservatives versus liberal battles? Guest hos John Gibson wonders if the base has actually been more harmful than helpful to the President's agenda.
JOE WILSON IS NOT THE PRESIDENT. Joe Wilson seems to think that he is the smartest man in the world. However, the lying, prentension and demonstrable incompetence suggest otherwise.
Go Home, CHUCK. During Prince Charles' first visit to the United States in a decade, the heir to the British throne wants to lecture Americans on their "overly confrontational" attitude towards Muslims. Why?
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thanks for that link (piggy bank). Someone yesterday made reference to it and now I know what they were talking about!
This is an example of the dilema a president faces- damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Imagine...pre-9/11 if ANY president had suggested bombing Afghanistan. Very few except (us) junkies who follow terrorists would have applauded. The same goes with bird flu...he will be ridiculed as causing panic to take the heat off the administration. The fact remains- we must start planning for a pandemic- it's just a matter of time.
Gol darnit, Kristof is not a nice guy and he is not a good reporter.
Good point.
LOL, now I know what one of the seven no no words are. I wonder what the other six are :)
AGREED! Kristoff is a creep. His pieces are always slanted, full of distortions and show an inability to see clearly.
I believe that is what we have been doing this morning. That question was at the top of this thread. If you had been listening to John today you would know that we have been mostly talking about Scooter, Cheney, Plame and Wilson.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1512367/posts
The dumb blonde who excelled as a spy, CIA's Valerie Plame was outed by Aldrich Ames in 1997
The Observer ^ | October 30, 2005 | Helena Smith
Posted on 10/30/2005 10:26:05 PM CST by TheEaglehasLanded
... When, in 1997, the CIA began to fear Plame had been given away - along with other covert overseas operatives - to the Russians by the double agent Aldrich Ames, she was brought back to Washington. ...
DISGRUNTLED RETIRED CIA CLANDESTINE OPERATIVES?
Rocco just received the documents, he did not forge them.
Read on:
Jacqueline, (Wilson's second wife), was a French diplomat and may have provided the connections for Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. It has been reported that she was a "cultural counselor" for the French Embassy, which some say is code for she was doing undercover work.
In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French just happen to manage the yellowcake production in Niger.
IOW, he didn't lie in his first statement...he saw the documents.
And Fedora has contributed this:
French intelligence soon began a campaign to discredit the US case for war against Iraq. In 1999, French intelligence had begun investigating the security of uranium supplies in Niger, where uranium production was controlled by a consortium led by the French mining company COGEMA, a division of the French state-owned nuclear energy firm AREVA. At that time, Italian businessman Rocco Martino provided French intelligence with genuine documents revealing that Iraq was planning to expand trade with Niger. French intelligence took an interest in the documents and asked Martino to provide more information. In 2000 he used a contact in the Niger embassy in Rome to provide French intelligence with documents purporting that Iraq had purchased uranium from Niger. These documents were later exposed as forgeries;
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Since it is now also known that French intelligence was trying to push Martino’s forgeries on US and British intelligence, as simultaneously the Democratic National Committee was planning to discredit President Bush’s Iraq policy by accusing his administration of manufacturing evidence against Hussein’s regime, heightened suspicion is cast on Wilson’s use of the Niger investigation to discredit the Bush administration’s case for war.
Wuli also just posted a timeline thread asking the question about how Joe Wilson saw the documents before they were turned over to the CIA and other questions. It also validates the theory that he saw them in advance:
Then if you connect the dots between the article,Was the Joe Wilson Valerie Plame Affair a CIA Plot? and the article New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name, you come away with all the makings of French/CIA coup attempt. George Tenet was Novak's first source, he was the administration official that was described as "no partisan gunslinger" by Novak.
It also validates the article by Seymour Hersch:
“Who produced the fake Niger papers? There is nothing approaching a consensus on this question within the intelligence community. There has been published speculation about the intelligence services of several different countries. One theory, favored by some journalists in Rome, is that [the Italian intelligence service] Sismi produced the false documents and passed them to Panorama for publication.
“Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.'
He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.”
Source
The stranger that approached Novak? Larry Johnson, Ex-CIA. And if my theory is correct, Vincent Cannistraro, another ex-CIA agent, who is a security consultant to the Vatican in Rome, engineered the break-in at the Niger Embassy there, where the letterhead and seals were stolen for the forgeries.
Yes, Prince Charles what about the plight of Piglet in your country you Dhimmi.
I think George Carlin put it on an "album" 30 years ago. :-) (now I am dating myself...sigh)
John's plant just called in to ask about his book. LOL.
Maybe they had visited for a trip... but although Wilson is well versed in geopolitic in a lot of areas, he knew nothing about Niger itself. He didn't even speak the particular dialect of French used there... but, his wife has worked there... as we know from her husband outing of her and the book.
This caller is awesome.
Kristoff along with Pincus were the first to write on the Plame debacle (never heard that right?), their source was guess who?
This guy is right....they just want the results that they want...to heck with the truth!
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