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Fires Of 'Civil War' Erupts In Paris
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 10-30-2005 | Jason Burke

Posted on 10/30/2005 5:06:42 PM PST by blam

Fires of 'civil war' erupt in Paris

Police in street battles after two teenagers die in chase

Jason Burke in Paris
Sunday October 30, 2005
The Observer (UK)

Hundreds of French youths fought with police and set cars ablaze in a northern Paris suburb early yesterday morning in a second successive night of rioting.

The disorder was triggered last week when two teenagers were electrocuted and killed in a local substation while fleeing from police. French authorities insist they were running away from officers investigating a break-in, but people in Clichy-sous-Bois claim that the dead youths had committed no crime.

Yesterday afternoon a silent march was held to the town hall in the centre of the suburb. Many protesters wore T-shirts bearing the message: 'Dead for Nothing'.

'We respect the republic, said Siako Karne, the brother of one of the dead men. 'The republic has to respect us.'

Firefighters extinguished more than 30 burning cars and dozens of dustbins pushed into makeshift barricades on Friday night and Saturday morning as running battles in the streets of the north-eastern suburb pitted more than 200 riot police against scores of hooded youths. At least one shot was fired at the police, 19 people were detained and 15 officers and one journalist injured, an official spokesman said.

An officer from police trade union Action Police CFTC called for help from the army to support police officers. 'There's a civil war under way in Clichy-sous-Bois at the moment,' Michel Thooris from Action Police CFTC, said. 'My colleagues neither have the equipment nor the practical nor theoretical training for street fighting.'

Clichy-sous-Bois is home to 28,300 people a large number of whom are recent immigrants from North or Central Africa. Most live in rundown, low-rise public housing estates. Unemployment rates are among the highest in France and many locals see the police as 'the enemy'.

Claude Dilain, Socialist mayor of the suburb, called for an 'efficient, rapid and transparent investigation' into the deaths of the two teenagers. A relative of one of the dead youths, who were identified by local media as 15-year-old Banou and 17-year-old Ziad, said that the two were among nine boys were playing football and 'doing nothing wrong'. 'But one of them did not have an identity card, and so they were scared when they saw the police and ran,' she said.

According to the mayor, 'no particular recent tension' preceded the riots.

The violence has focused attention once more on France's Interior Minster, Nicholas Sarkozy. Sarkozy, whose law and order policies have drawn frequent criticism from human rights groups, launched a new offensive against crime this month, ordering specially trained police to tackle 25 tough neighbourhoods in cities across France.

Delphine Batho, the opposition Socialist Party security spokesperson, called for 'serious answers' to the questions raised by the violence.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civil; cristalsemaine; erupt; fires; jailchirac; muslims; paris; trop; war
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1 posted on 10/30/2005 5:06:43 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Moslems?


2 posted on 10/30/2005 5:09:23 PM PST by Chickensoup (Turk...turk...turk....turk....turk...turkey!!!!!!)
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To: blam

"Muslim youths have been rioting in a Paris suburb for three days—but good luck if you want details from mainstream media, who seem to be working overtime to obscure the facts in this disturbing story."

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=18047_Muslims_Riot_in_Paris_MSM_Yawns#comments


3 posted on 10/30/2005 5:09:27 PM PST by ReaganLegion
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To: blam

Sounds like those folks have worn out their welcome and should be returned to their homes in the sunny South.


4 posted on 10/30/2005 5:09:30 PM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: Chickensoup

FOX is calling them Africans which is technically true I suppose since Algeria, Morocco, and Lybia etc are all in Africa.


5 posted on 10/30/2005 5:10:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Chickensoup

That's the spelling I had learned in school a longggggggggggggggggggg time ago.


6 posted on 10/30/2005 5:11:07 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Chickensoup

Ya think?


7 posted on 10/30/2005 5:11:31 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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To: blam
Paris Burning....

It ain't a Hilton and It ain't a venereal disease...
8 posted on 10/30/2005 5:11:44 PM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: Chi-townChief

At least you aren't calling them Moors.


9 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: blam

More TROP stuff. If it wasn't the French I might care...


10 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:27 PM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: blam

Couldn't happen to a nicer country.


11 posted on 10/30/2005 5:12:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ReaganLegion

3 whole days? That's impressive. I cant believe the government hasnt surrendered by now.


12 posted on 10/30/2005 5:13:31 PM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: ReaganLegion

Golly, gee, this is really bad news, I really hate to hear it.


13 posted on 10/30/2005 5:13:46 PM PST by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: dfwgator

'Africans' instead of 'Islamic Algerians'. Even FOX is being PC these days.


14 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:24 PM PST by ReaganLegion
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To: blam
Claude Dilain, Socialist mayor of the suburb, called for an 'efficient, rapid and transparent investigation' into the deaths of the two teenagers.

Read: you police better cough up some scapegoats, right quick! Anything to soothe a ghetto full of muslim illegals, 'natch...
15 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:39 PM PST by ClashOnBroadway
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To: cripplecreek

"Clichy-sous-Bois is home to 28,300 people a large number of whom are recent immigrants from North or Central Africa. Most live in rundown, low-rise public housing estates. Unemployment rates are among the highest in France and many locals see the police as 'the enemy'."


Illegal Immigration is going to destroy the western world.


16 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:52 PM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: blam

Time for a French house cleaning. Not that it will get done, but if the Frogs have any respect for their country and people they should TCB, as Elvis might say.


17 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:55 PM PST by oyez
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To: cripplecreek

FOX is calling them Africans which is technically true I suppose since Algeria, Morocco, and Lybia etc are all in Africa.

Is it PC to call them Africans instead of MOSLEMS?


18 posted on 10/30/2005 5:15:29 PM PST by Chickensoup (Turk...turk...turk....turk....turk...turkey!!!!!!)
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To: Chickensoup

On Friday, 400 youths clashed with 250 to 300 police, and a shot was fired at a police van, public security spokesman Jacques Meric said.

Twenty-three police officers were injured in Friday's violence which also affected the neighbouring town of Montfermeil where youths tried to set fire to a police station.

Molotov cocktails and other missiles were thrown at police, while 29 vehicles were torched and 14 arrests made, before calm was restored in the early hours of Saturday, officers said. Police fired tear gas and non-lethal missiles...

Representatives of the Muslim community at the procession appealed for calm and dignity.


19 posted on 10/30/2005 5:16:46 PM PST by ReaganLegion
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To: blam
'My colleagues neither have the equipment nor the practical nor theoretical training for street fighting.'

Sounds like that sensitivity training is failing just when it is needed. Maybe something a little less sensitive might be in order.

20 posted on 10/30/2005 5:16:47 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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