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What Scooter Libby And I Talked About
TIME Magazine ^ | 10/30/05 | Matt Cooper

Posted on 10/30/2005 4:13:47 AM PST by SE Mom

I was wet, smelling of chlorine. It was July 12, 2003, in Washington, a beautiful summer day, and I had just come back from swimming. All morning I had been trying to reach I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby for a cover story about both President George W. Bush's claim that Iraq had sought uranium in Africa and former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's controversial Op-Ed.

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1 posted on 10/30/2005 4:13:48 AM PST by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom

Okay, I am going to hold my nose and read it.

I remember the siffling little wuss who said he received a release in a sudden dramatic fashion when in fact it was his lawyer who made the call to the source.


2 posted on 10/30/2005 4:16:12 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: SE Mom

Here is a KEY sentence in the piece:

" The Wilson part that really interested Fitzgerald was tiny, as I told TIME readers. Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."


He said HE asked Libby...AND Libby simply said "Yeah, Ive heard that too"...


3 posted on 10/30/2005 4:16:31 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: SE Mom

What Scooter Libby And I Talked About
Exclusive: A TIME correspondent recounts his role in the Libby case
By MATTHEW COOPER/WASHINGTON

I was wet, smelling of chlorine. It was July 12, 2003, in Washington, a beautiful summer day, and I had just come back from swimming. All morning I had been trying to reach I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby for a cover story about both President George W. Bush's claim that Iraq had sought uranium in Africa and former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's controversial Op-Ed. I had been invited to a fancy Washington country club by friends. Since the club didn't allow the use of cell phones, I kept running from pool to parking lot to try to reach Libby, who was traveling to Norfolk, Va., with Vice President Dick Cheney for the commissioning of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan. Eventually I raced home without showering in order to take Libby's call. When he finally reached me at around 3 p.m., we spoke for a few minutes as I sprawled on my bed. I had no idea that that brief phone call, along with a conversation with Karl Rove the day before, would leave me embroiled in a federal investigation for more than two years and that Libby would end up facing a five-count indictment. I doubt it occurred to Libby either. That afternoon, we talked a bit on background and off the record, and he gave me an on-the-record quote distancing Cheney from Wilson's fact-finding trip to Africa for the CIA. In fact, he was so eager to distance his boss from Wilson that a few days later, he called to rebuke me for not having used the whole quote in the piece.

We updated the online version of the story, and I went on to co-author a piece for TIME.com called "A War on Wilson?," which would attract the attention of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

Almost a year passed between those pieces and my legal woes. In May 2004 I was subpoenaed by Fitzgerald, who was interested in my conversation with Libby. Since part of our conversation was on background, I, along with TIME Inc.—which would be formally subpoenaed a few months later because the company controlled my computer-written notes and e-mails—fought the order to protect the principle of source confidentiality. We lost, and in early August 2004 we were both facing contempt. For TIME Inc., part of the global behemoth TIME Warner, that meant a fine; for me, jail.

On Aug. 5, 2004, the night before TIME Inc. and I were scheduled to be sentenced, I called Libby to see if he would grant a waiver for my testifying. The lawyers representing TIME Inc. and me, who supported my making that call, thought Libby might well do so. After all, he had granted a waiver to a Washington Post reporter, and Tim Russert of NBC had just avoided contempt by testifying about his end of his conversation with Libby. Most important, my exchange with Libby about Wilson had been short and, in my thinking and TIME Inc.'s, not especially provocative. When I reached Libby to ask for the waiver I told him, "I've been called before the grand jury, and I think they're going to ask me about a conversation we had about a year ago.

Most of it was on the record, but part of it wasn't, and I wanted to see if I could get your permission to talk about the part that wasn't on the record." I told him that I would tell the truth about our conversation. Libby told me that he used to be a lawyer and that "to be safe" our attorneys should talk and if it was O.K. with them, it was O.K. with him. So the following week my attorney, Floyd Abrams, spoke with Libby's lawyer, Joseph Tate, and they hammered out the details of the waiver. On Aug. 23, I had a tuna sandwich and gave a deposition in Abrams' Washington office about the conversation. The Wilson part that really interested Fitzgerald was tiny, as I told TIME readers. Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."

The contempt citation was lifted against me that day, and I breathed easy. As it turned out, a week later, Fitzgerald came back and insisted he wanted to know what another source had told me, and the struggle began all over again, with my refusing to name the source and TIME Inc. fighting the case all the way to the Supreme Court—which in June upheld the lower court's demand that the company turn over my notes and that I testify. Until now, that is the part of my involvement in the Plame affair that has drawn the biggest headlines: TIME Inc. did turn over my notes, over my objections, and my other source—Rove—did grant me a waiver to testify (see "What I Told the Grand Jury," July 25, 2005).

I was surprised last week that the Libby indictment even mentioned me. But apparently his recollection of the conversation differed from mine in a way that led the prosecutor to think he was lying. As for me, I still have no idea if Libby or anyone else has committed a crime. I only know that if there is a Libby trial, I'll testify truthfully and completely, as I did before the grand jury.


4 posted on 10/30/2005 4:17:00 AM PST by cody32127 (If Democrats are not evil, then evil has no meaning)
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To: SE Mom
Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."

And this is supposed to be damaging to Libby?

5 posted on 10/30/2005 4:17:35 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

EXACTLY- that is absurd, isn't it?


6 posted on 10/30/2005 4:18:22 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: SE Mom

I, me, my, I me my. Buried in this narcissistic diatribe is absolutely no new information.


7 posted on 10/30/2005 4:18:48 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: SE Mom

>>> I was wet, smelling of chlorine.


A reporter talks about the news. A journalist talks about himself with the news as backdrop.


8 posted on 10/30/2005 4:19:40 AM PST by tlb
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
"I had been invited to a fancy Washington country club by friends. Since the club didn't allow the use of cell phones, I kept running from pool to parking lot to try to reach Libby,...

Sniffling little wuss feels the need to impress me [major NOT!] with his circle of friends? In the first paragraph?

Major, butt-lickin' a**-kissin' POS if you ask me. (And that is my Sunday moring restraint, LOL!)

9 posted on 10/30/2005 4:20:01 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: cody32127; Admin Moderator

I purposely didn't post the entire piece as I believe we have to excerpt TIME articles.


10 posted on 10/30/2005 4:20:04 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Dilbert56
When is Bob Novak going to write about this matter? Didn't he say he was anxious to tell his story?
11 posted on 10/30/2005 4:21:12 AM PST by Stars&StripesNE (My Daughter, My Hero, My Soldier, My Friend)
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To: cody32127

Cody:

Thanks for the complete posting.

I think the point most liberal people do not consider who are happy about the Libby indictment is that it could not have happened had Libby not granted waivers to everyone he spoke with.

Libby provided the sources that were used to indict him.


12 posted on 10/30/2005 4:22:45 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: SE Mom
Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."

OMG!!! Libby is a traitor. Off with his head. (/sarc)

13 posted on 10/30/2005 4:25:00 AM PST by linkinpunk
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To: SE Mom

What is most disturbing here is that we still do not know if Valerie Plame was a covert agent or not.

Fitzgerald has not addressed that issue.

That should have been his first act....determine if the statute covers Valerie Plame. If not, this should have stopped right there. No subpoenas for reporters' notes, no grand jury, etc.

This is another example of a prosecutor that keeps extending the bounds of his investigation until he finds a "gotcha".


14 posted on 10/30/2005 4:26:08 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: SE Mom
Eventually I raced home without showering in order to take Libby's call. When he finally reached me at around 3 p.m., we spoke for a few minutes as I sprawled on my bed.

This first paragraph win the prize for idiocy. I almost expect the next sentence to be "As I was talking on the phone, Mandy comes in, smelling of chlorine. She sprawls beside me........"

You get the picture. My brain cannot even visualize what comes next (gotta keep the Egg McMuffin down)

15 posted on 10/30/2005 4:26:11 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Jen's Mom
When is Bob Novak going to write about this matter? Didn't he say he was anxious to tell his story?

Anyone wonder why we still don't know Novak's source. He/she isn't named, just referred to as Source A. Think it maybe because he/she is a REAL CIA covert operator and thus covered by the same law mythically broken in the Palme case?I got a feeling we will never hear who was Novak's source.

16 posted on 10/30/2005 4:26:47 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: SE Mom

I checked the list and Time.com is not one of the ones we have to excerpt.


17 posted on 10/30/2005 4:27:00 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: SE Mom

That's okay, he's going to have explain more about it later.


18 posted on 10/30/2005 4:27:39 AM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Erik Latranyi
This is another example of a prosecutor that keeps extending the bounds of his investigation until he finds a "gotcha".

I agree. I think Fritz knew he would be in for it from the Dinosaur Media if he did NOT indite SOMEONE. This whole Libby deal is a way to keep the media off his back rather then admit there is NOTHING here.

19 posted on 10/30/2005 4:28:22 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

It's pretty funny, isn't it? One imagines most high-school students in a creative writing class would do a better job telling this story...


20 posted on 10/30/2005 4:28:38 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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