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Israel Unity and Frontpagemag ^ | October 27, 2005 | David Horowitz

Posted on 10/27/2005 6:18:41 PM PDT by freedomdefender

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To: xzins

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41 posted on 10/27/2005 8:32:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: smoothsailing

"1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium,sarin gas artillery shells, cyclosarin gas etc.; obviously just the tip of the iceberg."

I actually didn't know that. I knew we had found some mobile chemical labs and 36 mortar shells full of blister gas (an EXTEMEMLY deadly chemical weapon) buried in the sands of Northern Iraq.


42 posted on 10/27/2005 8:33:23 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: xzins

"The problem of WMDs was Saddam giving them to terrorists in small quantities."

Very true, and that was the classic argument. The liberals counter that there were no weapons at all for Saddam to give, which appears to be true but may not be.

The Iraq/al-Quaida link was very real. Even though bin Laden and his cronies are religious zealots and Saddam was a secular Ba'athist, they are both Sunnis and that has become the defining line in the war: angry religious Sunnis are trying to spark an ethnic war between regular Sunnis and Shi'ites. This...cannot...happen.

And not only did congress give that authorization, but the U.N. itself signed Resolution 1441, which said that there would be "consequences" if Saddam did not comply. He remained defiant. It was the U.N. itself who wouldn't enforce its own resolution. We and the rest of the coalition were the U.N. members who actually followed through with 1441.


43 posted on 10/27/2005 8:41:48 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux
The hate Bush crowd don't even need that, they hate him for his very existence.
44 posted on 10/27/2005 8:42:13 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Do you have power point?

Ever see this slide show?

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce/iraqitour.pps


45 posted on 10/27/2005 8:48:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: smoothsailing

"They hate him for his very existence."

That's true, and the DEFINITIVE PROOF lies in the fact that Bush has many policies that have angered his right-wing base voters. He has increased Federal spending to record levels. He has failed to secure the border (which may change before the second term is up). You'd think he'd be hailed as a hero to liberals for spending so much on government programs designed to help the poor. But they hate him no matter what his policies are.


46 posted on 10/27/2005 8:49:09 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux
There's a new book out by Richard Miniter titled Disinformation that goes into great detail about what we and our coalition allies have turned up.

I have it on order and apparently it's very well documented.

The things I mentioned are just off the top of my head from a pre-release review I recieved.

47 posted on 10/27/2005 8:50:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Calpernia

Take the Los Angeles Times.

No thank you. There's enough stupidity in my life, I see no reason to go out of my way to get more.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, the main headline spread across two columns of Times was “U.S. Death Toll In Iraq Hits 2,000.”

The Ten Costliest Battles of the Civil War
Based on total casualties (killed, wounded, missing, and captured)
http://www.civilwarhome.com/Battles.htm

#1
Battle of Gettysburg
Date: July 1-3, 1863

Location: Pennsylvania
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: George G. Meade
Confederate Forces Engaged: 75,000
Union Forces Engaged: 82,289
Winner: Union
Casualties: 51,112 (23,049 Union and 28,063 Confederate)





#2
Battle of Chickamauga
Date: September 19-20, 1863

Location: Georgia
Confederate Commander: Braxton Bragg
Union Commander: William Rosecrans
Confederate Forces Engaged: 66,326
Union Forces Engaged: 58,222
Winner: Confederacy
Casualties: 34,624 (16,170 Union and 18,454 Confederate)





#3
Battle of Chancellorsville
Date: May 1-4, 1863

Location: Virginia
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: Joseph Hooker
Confederate Forces Engaged: 60,892
Union Forces Engaged: 133,868
Winner: Confederacy
Casualties: 30,099 (17,278 Union and 12,821 Confederate)





#4
Battle of Spotsylvania
Date: May 8-19, 1864

Location: Virginia
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: Ulysses S. Grant
Confederate Forces Engaged: 50,000
Union Forces Engaged: 83,000
Winner: Confederacy
Casualties: 27,399 (18,399 Union and 9)000 Confederate)





#5
Battle of Antietam
Date: September 17, 1862

Location: Maryland
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: George B. McClellan
Confederate Forces Engaged: 51,844
Union Forces Engaged: 75,316
Winner: Union
Casualties: 26,134 (12,410 Union and 13,724 Confederate)





#6
Battle of The Wilderness
Date: May 5-7, 1864

Location: Virginia
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: Ulysses S. Grant
Confederate Forces Engaged: 61,025
Union Forces Engaged: 101,895
Winner: Inconclusive
Casualties: 25,416 (17,666 Union and 7,750 Confederate)





#7
Battle of Second Manassas
Date: August 29-30, 1862

Location: Virginia
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: John Pope
Confederate Forces Engaged: 48,527
Union Forces Engaged: 75,696
Winner: Confederacy
Casualties: 25,251 (16,054 Union and 9,197 Confederate)





#8
Battle of Stone's River
Date: December 31, 1862

Location: Tennessee
Confederate Commander: Braxton Bragg
Union Commander: William S. Rosecrans
Confederate Forces Engaged: 37,739
Union Forces Engaged: 41,400
Winner: Union
Casualties: 24,645 (12,906 Union and 11,739 Confederate)





#9
Battle of Shiloh
Date: April 6-7, 1862

Location: Tennessee
Confederate Commander: Albert Sidney Johnston/ P. G. T. Beauregard
Union Commander: Ulysses S. Grant
Confederate Forces Engaged: 40,335
Union Forces Engaged: 62,682
Winner: Union
Casualties: 23,741 (13,047 Union and 10,694 Confederate)





#10
Battle of Fort Donelson
Date: February 13-16, 1862

Location: Tennessee
Confederate Commander: John B. Floyd/Simon B. Buckner
Union Commander: Ulysses S. Grant
Confederate Forces Engaged: 21,000
Union Forces Engaged: 27,000
Winner: Union
Casualties: 19,455 (2,832 Union and 16,623 Confederate)


48 posted on 10/27/2005 8:52:36 PM PDT by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: xzins
Great quote. Thanks.

In two years, with less loss of life than we suffered on 9/11, America has liberated 25 million Iraqis, ended the most heinous tyranny of the 21st Century, inflicted terrible defeats on our terrorist enemies, and created the first democracy in the history of Islam. -- David Horowitz

49 posted on 10/27/2005 8:52:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (NYT: How many times do you ask for an error to be corrected before the "error" becomes a "lie"?)
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To: TontoKowalski

I would believe that Saddam had them transported, while Bush was trying to educate the UN idiots. The US had to get the trackings from "ours eyes in space."


50 posted on 10/27/2005 8:52:57 PM PDT by MyFreedomIHoldDear
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To: smoothsailing

Did you see that PowerPoint slide in post 45? Amazing. Those are some big rockets!

I'll look into that book. Seems are media has not told us very much.


51 posted on 10/27/2005 8:55:17 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Mulch

A guy I know (he's pretty much non- political joe-six pack type) were talking about Iraq.
I asked him "Do you know why we invaded Iraq?"
"Sure, I looked at a map."


52 posted on 10/27/2005 8:56:09 PM PDT by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: MyFreedomIHoldDear

Yeah, thanks to the opposition, we did wait WAAAAY too long. Saddam had ample time to destroy and/or deport as much as he could.


53 posted on 10/27/2005 8:56:44 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Calpernia
No, I've got this little 56k dialup webtv but I copied the URL as I will be at my brothers house on Sunday and he has it.

I'm looking forward to checking it out.Thanks!

54 posted on 10/27/2005 8:57:09 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Valin
Good post,Valin. The media could care less but it's important to keep things in perspective.
55 posted on 10/27/2005 9:03:57 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: pcottraux
My system can't access it (see 54)
56 posted on 10/27/2005 9:06:33 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Oh.

Well, it basically showed a crude chemical lab filled with materials to make EXTEMELY deadly weapons and bombs, and how-to books. And at the end, it says that houses just like that were all OVER Iraq.


57 posted on 10/27/2005 9:18:40 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux
Well, my guess is, neither of us are surprised! No doubt Hans Blix would have described them as pastry shops.
58 posted on 10/27/2005 9:27:18 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

No doubt.

Got to be going, FReep at you later!


59 posted on 10/27/2005 9:31:00 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux
G'Night. Enjoyed it!
60 posted on 10/27/2005 9:34:59 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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